Had been updating the KDE2 on my machine regualarly until I saw the KDE3 files moved from experimental to the real subdirs - so decided to wait a while before updating. yesterday I decided to take the plunge and disaster struck! First thing to go wrong was my kde, kde2, and kde3 (from the experimental stuff) links in /usr/X11R6/bin were gone. No problem - replace them - but my startkde script in /opt/kde2/bin is missing. So now I can't even start KDE2!!! So - any chance anyone has a working one for KDE2 lying around then can send on? Next problem - rebooted machine back to init level 5. What's happened to KDM?! Only XDM is running. A little bit of investigation later and /opt/kde2/bin/kdm is also deleted! To cap it off I needed to edit /etc/init.d/xdm to check for /opt/kde3/bin/kdm instead (which works beautifully I must add). Next problem is that on every cold reboot I'm asked whether I want to load my KDE2 settings or make new KDE3 ones! Anyone know how to fix this? To make it worse - selecting the KDE2 settings doesn't even work properly as my background is wrong, etc.. Next one is what happened to my desktop icons? Yes I can create them again, but it's a bit of a pain. And one of the more iritating problems - I liked when SuSE integrated YAST2 into the KDE Control Center and provided menus, etc.. Now they are no more. How can I get these back? And finally - it's very unstable. I use MPlayer quite a bit which means I need to killoff artsd, start Mplayer then restart artsd. But so for this results in the X session crashing as soon as I go back to KDE applications. Any ideas? Anyway, Apart from all that - KDE3 is faster and much better looking than it's predecessor. I'll be using it over and above KDE2 for my desktop, but until I can get the above problems sorted it's still going to be fluxbox on my laptop! RikD.