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Re: [opensuse-gnome] [Fwd: Re: beagle bits ...]
- From: Hans Petter Jansson <hpj@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:48:48 +0100
- Message-id: <1231886928.15510.46.camel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 10:29 +0000, Michael Meeks wrote:
Agreed. But sometimes I drop e.g. relevant PDFs into a source-controlled
directory (say, under doc/ or reference/) just so I won't lose them, and
I suspect other people have their own odd habits that make this a
dangerous road to travel down :)
So: Cutting out source dirs entirely in the short term is a good idea -
one you've convinced me we should pursue - but we should also keep an
eye towards replacing it with a more sophisticated solution long-term.
Another reason I think people are dropping Beagle is that it just isn't
useful enough (cost may be high, but benefit is also low?). The last
time I tested it, which is admittedly a long time ago, I felt like it
just didn't rank my documents very well; ranking is much harder than
finding...
We could index comments only (which would give us license, authors, the
odd expletive, maybe even some insights), or exclude source code
altogether - but still crawl the directories for interesting stuff (like
PNGs and JPGs in source control, the PS and PDF files I mentioned above,
uninstalled documentation, etc).
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On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 21:42 +0100, Hans Petter Jansson wrote:
It would be nice to index HACKING, README, possibly documentation still.
I guess; makes it more complicated but ... ;-) I'm fairly convinced
beagle is not a tool for hackers to grok their source trees with. People
use 'git grep' for this, or they use a sane semantically informed search
- ctags or whatever. The sheer cost of diving down all those directories
is staggering.
Agreed. But sometimes I drop e.g. relevant PDFs into a source-controlled
directory (say, under doc/ or reference/) just so I won't lose them, and
I suspect other people have their own odd habits that make this a
dangerous road to travel down :)
So: Cutting out source dirs entirely in the short term is a good idea -
one you've convinced me we should pursue - but we should also keep an
eye towards replacing it with a more sophisticated solution long-term.
Another reason I think people are dropping Beagle is that it just isn't
useful enough (cost may be high, but benefit is also low?). The last
time I tested it, which is admittedly a long time ago, I felt like it
just didn't rank my documents very well; ranking is much harder than
finding...
Another, more sophisticated strategy might be to build a list of things
to index and prioritize them, so that source directories come last and
are indexed at a fairly leisurely pace. It's definitely more work,
though.
Yep - that might work too - though; really - I'm fairly certain that
source code directories are highly dynamic, take a lot of maintenance,
contain -tons- of stuff which (no doubt) balloons the index size, and
are not interesting in search results :-)
We could index comments only (which would give us license, authors, the
odd expletive, maybe even some insights), or exclude source code
altogether - but still crawl the directories for interesting stuff (like
PNGs and JPGs in source control, the PS and PDF files I mentioned above,
uninstalled documentation, etc).
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Hans Petter
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