Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-gnome (61 mails)

[Alberto Passalacqua <alberto.passalacqua@xxxxxx>]

Hi Vincent,

> I'd love to know what's from 10.3 (or earlier) and what's from 11.0
> here.

Yast-gtk is from 10.3 and 11.0.
PulseAudio/PackageKit/Tasque pushing is from 11.0.
Main-menu is from SLE/10.2/10.3, even though I think it should be
redesigned from scratch because of the app-browser.

> > - GNOME is bloated in openSUSE, causing major performance issues
> > compared to other distributions (see Fedora).
>
> I'm sorry, but each time you say that, I wonder why. I see no major
> performance difference here. And I'm looking at other distros.

Well, I have no scientific test available, clearly. In my experience (on
my laptop and workstations), Red Hat and Fedora has a very responsive
gnome, with an evidently lower login time (from authentication to
desktop), a faster nautilus (opening/listing files/performing
operations) and a lower time required to launch gnome applications in
general. I don't know the technical reasons of that, I'm simply
reporting what happens.

> I guess it depends -- maybe we're slower for PA, but maybe we're faster
> for other things (and I actually think we are in some cases). But point
> taken. The new bug triage policy should help with that (since we're
> giving sense to priority). What could make sense too is to send some
> weekly summary of the urgent things to fix for a stable release so
> people can easily know what is needed and help. Would you or anybody
> else want to help with that?

I think GNOME team is already one of the most bureaucratic of the whole
distribution, at least from what appears from the ML, so I'm not really
convinced that adding meetings, agendas, lists will help much. 
I think bugzilla is out there for that purpose, bugs have priority
assignments (recently updated, btw), so it's somewhat a responsibility
of the team to take care of that.

> Also, one thing which is still surprising for me (keep in mind I'm new
> here ;-)) is that it's really hard to get updates out for a stable
> release.

I agree. That is the updates policy inherited by the SuSE, where "only
security updates" were provided. I see the advantages: safer and only
required updates, but I also see the disadvantages we are experiencing.
I wonder if this approach is the best one for a community distribution,
where maybe a little bit more flexibility would be of help.

Regards,
A.

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