Re: [opensuse-gnome] GUADEC Report for openSUSE

24 Jul 2008

      Sounds awesome.   Any chance there will be improved support for video
editing?  Kino is pretty decent but not as easy to use/effective as
iMovie for Mac users.  Cinelerra is too complex for general users. 

While I think we have some good decent video editing tools here on
Linux, improving the end-user experience could greatly expand the market
for new GNOME/Linux users.  It seems to be an overlooked segment in
Linux.

Bryen

On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 16:14 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
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As promised, interesting GUADEC tidbits.
* GNOME 3.0
-framework for getting there proposed by release team
        -generally well received
        -some concern about what the "cool" stuff will be
-http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080714-gnome-3-0-officially-announced...
        -good summary
-current approx. schedule is spring 2010 (GNOME 2.30 == 3.0)
        -ideal for a SLED 11.5 about ~18 months after SLED 11
-Federico talked to TimJ+Kris (Imendio) and Lucas+Vincent (release team)
        -porting even obsolete / deprecated platform libraries to new
        ABI to keep/backwards compat probable 
        -agreed that we don't want to pull a GNOME 2.0.
        -Better sooner than later to avoid a GNOME 1->2 disaster.
        -Imendio mentioned producing compiler-based tools to do
        automatic porting.
* Online Desktop
-big board has improved a *lot* since last year
  -connections to many more services
  -ui improvements
  -gconf settings sync
  -favorite applications
  -using slab/tile type functionality for some stuff
-seems unlikely to have full support in initial RHEL 6
  -maybe in updates and RHEL 7
-many infrastructure issues to solve
  -shared and/or federated servers?
  -what about distros without for-profit backing?
  -what about ad revenues driven through this?
  -branding?

* Multimedia/UPnP-AV
-Aaron/Gabriel spoke with Zeeshan Ali about gupnp implementation
        -uses libsoup/libxml2 for HTTP/SOAP
        -requires a number of libraries to get the UPnP-AV spec (gssdp,
        gupnp, gupnp-av, at a minimum)
        -vala enters the picture if we wish to use their media server as
        a starting point
        -gupnp and gupnp-av will be difficult to bind do to the way they
        use GObject signals (similar to GStreamer)
        -very GNOMEy stack - GIO/GMainLoop integration, nice, but raises
        xplat issues for Banshee at least
        -looking to push gupnp into many areas of GNOME where UPnP
        standards exist in the market already
   -exciting, but still very young
* Multimedia/Elisa
-Elisa is maturing nicely, but also growing in terms of functionality
-Last year they wanted to be more of a front end to existing MM
platforms, this year they want to be the MM platform
* Multimedia/GStreamer
-Aaron/Gabriel worked with Win Taymans on starting port to playbin2 in
Banshee
-will provide gapless playback and other goodies in the future
* Evolution Re-Licensing
-well received, lots of support
* Conduit
-nautilus, totem, eog plugins so apps can leverage conduit
-author is not that happy with the UI for non-power users
-looking to share web services login manager with gnome online desktop
* WebKit
-webkit support heading for epiphany, yelp, gimp, pidgin, evolution
-webkit has nsplugin support
* Telepathy/Collaboration
-telepathy-glib work to enable simpler usage by clients
-cool "tube" work for files and vnc
        -vnc works well
        -issues around bandwidth demands for this sort of use
-voice/video working well for XMPP and SIP
-GSoC for farsight videoconferencing
-Ekiga 3.0 coming
* Sound
-pulseaudio will probably be proposed as an external dependency
        -work is planned to get it well-integrated for 2.26
        -with sound events through libcanberra
* Keyboard Handling
-Richard Hughes keyboard handling diagram
  -http://rhughes.fedorapeople.org/linux-input-model.png
* Bluetooth
-bluez 4.x series coming
  -3.x compat available at compile time in daemon
  -last stuff ported in ~6 months
-Bastien N. from RedHat has partial bluetooth support for NM
* Hardware
-marco polo/shackleton projects for hardware policy
-http://guadec.expectnation.com/guadec08/public/schedule/detail/56
* Random Applications to Watch:
-PaperBox http://live.gnome.org/PaperBox
-nautilus mercurial plugins
-tweet/twitux
-gdesklets (seems to be living a bit again)
-clutter toolkit
-GeoClue/gypsy for location aware apps
-wizbit revisioning file system base on gitcore
        -time machine like functionality
-JP
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JP Rosevear 
Novell, Inc.
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