Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-gnome (128 mails)

[Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 12:28 -0500, Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
> Just my two cents:
>
> > > You like a boomerang that either kills or comes back
> > > to your hand. The
> > > fancy coloring is for worthless crap sold to tourists.
> > well, saying this it seems you mean we have just forced PA in the distro
> > with us knowing it is a piece of crap. 
>
> I think we could really have waited for 11.1, when pulseaudio would have
> been a bit more stable, in the view of having, for once, a good quality
> release starting from the released day, and not six months later after a
> lot of patches.
I am seeing, right now, 0 problems with PA, and most people seem to
also, so it's not that a few people having problems means it's not
stable enough. It means we really need to fix those issues

> > It works for 99% of the people,
> > and we have seen just 1 report about the bad performance, for which a
> > fix is under way (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=381686 ).
>
> A lot of people, me included, is not testing it because we use virtual
> machines, so we don't really know how it behaves on real hardware.
still, some testing on virtual machines, given lots of people will be
using them these days, would be really useful. So please test it also
there

> What's sure is that ubuntu is receiving a lot of complaints about
> pulseaudio, and the benefits seem to be small to me too.
as some review pointed out, their PA integration is worst than ours :-)
But yes, in 11.0 we probably don't see too much benefit, but in future
versions, as I already said, we will be able to take advantage of its
features for new stuff.

> > We have not seen 100s of reports about unhappy users, so if there is
> > anything that doesn't work for you, file bugs please, we will be doing
> > our best to fix all the issues, but as I said, so far, all the bug
> > reports are being fixed, and nobody, apart from you, at least that I
> > know, has complained much about PA.
> >
> > PA is being used now in GNOME upstream, so we have been just following
> > the direction taken there.
>
> True, but we don't always follow upstream for everything. We have
> probably the most personalised and patched GNOME in openSUSE, with all
> the advantages and disadvantages.
we are working on fixing that, IMO we should follow upstream as much as
possible

> Anyway, PA is in. Let's hope it works well. We should just keep an eye
> on it during the last phases of testing.
yes, please test under all circumstances (VM, etc) :)
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Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo@xxxxxxxxxx>

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