Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-gnome (128 mails)

[Casual Programmer <casualprogrammer@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 11:35 -0600, John M. Anderson
wrote:
> In openSUSE 11.0 Beta 2, Cheese wasn't included in
the main GNOME
> Pattern, I think it should be as it is a very
valuable app to have on
> the desktop.
>
> Thanks,
> John

I am not sure where this is leading...

I have no objections to include all sorts of stuff in
repositories or on
DVD, including it in a Pattern, to my knowledge, means
installing it
when the pattern is selected.

According to http://www.gnome.org/about/why.html there
are several
anticipated user groups:

GNOME for Business
GNOME for Home Users
GNOME for Developers
GNOME for the World
GNOME for People with Disabilities
GNOME for System Administrators

These are by no means reflected in respective
Patterns.

yast2 sw_single shows under Patterns:

GNOME Desktop Environment
GNOME Base System
GNOME Development

zypper pt | grep gnome shows

  | devel_gnome          | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome                | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_admin          | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_basis          | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_basis_opt      | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome_games          | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome_ide            | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_imaging        | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_imaging_opt    | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome_internet       | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_laptop         | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome_multimedia     | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | gnome_multimedia_opt | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_office         | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_office_opt     | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_utilities      | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_utilities_opt  | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_xgl            | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | gnome_yast           | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
  | rest_cd_gnome        | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           
i | sw_management_gnome  | 11.0-92 | openSuSE-Factory
|           

Which is slightly irritating.

So my suggestion is, before adding the umpteenth "nice
to have" feature
to clean up the patterns according to the "Why use
GNOME" advertisement.

I strongly object adding all sorts of stuff to a
default installation,
leaving it up to the user to find out about the
unnecessary overhead
s/he can clean out to save space and resources.

Casual

P.S. Again: feel free to disagree with my view ;-)




      
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