The point is that a firewall off is wrong in principle. You can claim you want it more user friendly, and I would perfectly agree, but not off by default. And hopefully it won't happen anytime soon in openSUSE. Regards, A.
Meh, modern dslmodems have a router built into them (atleast the ones used here for the last 5 years by the major isps) But no, this is not off-topic since upnp will only work if the firewall is disabled or the "right" ports were openend, or as Benji (I think) suggested that we should ship a interactive firewall. IMO that would be nice and annoying at the same time, but I could ofcource just disable the bugger like I always do.
The point is, if there is a use upnp option, and that does not work since there is a "useless" firewall in place, that would lead to confusion since "new/converts" are used to just ticking that upnp thingamabob, or that it is already enabled by default. And "torrents" just work for them in the "other os" Why does it have to be more difficult here?
Bjørn
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