Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-gnome (58 mails)

[Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@xxxxxx>]

Am Mittwoch, den 27.02.2008, 17:24 -0600 schrieb Alberto Passalacqua:


> I wrote _show_, not allow to install. The version number should be
> readable without clicking anywhere.

I think that Ricardo might well grant you that wish; nothing's carved in
stone. But there certainly are nicer ways to ask.

That is why I called you mail 'noise'.

> Moreover, can it change architecture (aka install 32 bit stuff on 64 bit
> systems)?

Haven't tried, dunno.

> > > You don't absolutely get the point. When you write documentation for
> > > SUSE you've to manage two different installer interfaces, which is, to
> > > be honest, wrong in principle.
> >
> > Well, by that logic it is also wrong in principle to feature TWO desktop
> > environments (or even more, as SUSE does)...
>
> I don't agree. But the system management tools should be _identical_ on
> all DE's. The idea at the base of Yast-gtk is to provide _look_
> consistency, not a different interface, which adds just confusion.

AFAIK the GNOME-version of YaST is _not_ trying to mimick the look of
the QT-YaST. It is emulating the look of the GNOME control-center.
Seamless integration into the desktop environment describes the
direction this is taking far better.

 
> > I don't agree in the slightest. Have you even TRIED the new
> > GTK-package-selector yet, before making so much noise?
>
> I didn't try directly, but the screen shots looks exhaustive for me, and
> clearly show it doesn't match the corresponding Qt module, at least for
> now. There are visualisation also errors like this:
>
> http://www.decriptor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/packageselector3.png
>
> because I don't think the right blue vertical bar is wanted. Am I right?

No, you are absolutely wrong. This underlines how important it is that
you don't make a whole lotta noise without even _testing_.

Had you tested the new package-selector you would have realized that the
blue bar on the right side appears once you make changes (install etc.).
When you click the 'accept'-button you won't be greeted with an endless
list of changes to perform anymore because you have an overview of what
you have done in the selector all the time. You also can revert any
action at any time (see the buttons next to the changes?).



> Btw, it's not noise. I'm just summing the issues and frustrations we had
> on opensuse 10.3 because of the hurry to push the new installer in the
> distribution, and never really solved later.

You are completely missing the aim when you don't know the software you are 
complaining about.


> Moreover, there's really no intention to complain without a point on my
> side. I just want to see these issue solved, and I don't think the
> proposed solution is moving in the right direction.

I'm a GNOME user. Personally, I don't see any sense in you complaining
that the GNOME-version of the package-selector doesn't follow the same
(bad IMHO) design-rules as the old QT-selector.

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