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Re: [opensuse-gnome] package\selector small UI change proposal
- From: Christian Jäger <christian.jaeger@xxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:13:41 +0200
- Message-id: <1192209222.5862.17.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Thanks to you all, I'm really happy to see how much you people care
about giving the package-selector a more user-friendly design!
Am Freitag, den 12.10.2007, 15:45 +0100 schrieb Ricardo Cruz:
> However, I am afraid we can only hack that for installed
> software.
> Zypp downloads a file from the repos that has some informations about
> the packages (names, descriptions, ...), but it doesn't have an inlined
> icon -- it doesn't even have all the RPM header info. We would need to
> download the entire package to extract that information.
Could the package-selector not tap external sources, like an
ftp-directory with icons, to downloads icons by package-name?
> Whenever the user wants to check out what other word processor
> (to give an example) are available, browsing is more reliable than
> search, that can miss something. So, browse should really be a first
> class citizen.
! ^_^
> Maybe we could have it together with search, on the
> filters pane, though it makes only sense for packages.
! ^_^
> * dedicated interface for upgrading. We need to give the user more
> information on the upgrades (and downgrades) available. A nice extra
> could be doing a diff between the installed ChangeLog and the available
> one, so the user can check easily what's new. (they aren't very nice).
> Maybe an extra Upgrade tab page (or Version) should be available when a
> package has multiple versions.
Yes, either tabs, or on the other hand, dropdown-lists seem a good
solution for pre-defined view-filters ('view installed', 'view not
installed', 'view upgrades', 'view third-party packages'...) Differently
coloured up- and down-arrows certainly aren't good enough (and not
intuitive).
One more ting: I think we need a way to easily tell third-party packages
from core-packages, similarly as it is easy in Ubuntu's package-manager.
>
> About the two pools approach, or the one of yast-qt, we can make it
> configurable, even through the interface, so don't loose your time
> arguing about it. :)
A simple and an 'advanced' mode, perhaps?
Martin Szulecki wrote:
> > However, feeling the need for above might aswell just be the result of
> > opensuse-updater failing to give me any hint (even a "Details" would be
> > sufficient; the current only lists official updates) at which packages
> > it would update when I click OK.
Yes, I also feel far from comfortable with the updater in its current
state.
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about giving the package-selector a more user-friendly design!
Am Freitag, den 12.10.2007, 15:45 +0100 schrieb Ricardo Cruz:
> However, I am afraid we can only hack that for installed
> software.
> Zypp downloads a file from the repos that has some informations about
> the packages (names, descriptions, ...), but it doesn't have an inlined
> icon -- it doesn't even have all the RPM header info. We would need to
> download the entire package to extract that information.
Could the package-selector not tap external sources, like an
ftp-directory with icons, to downloads icons by package-name?
> Whenever the user wants to check out what other word processor
> (to give an example) are available, browsing is more reliable than
> search, that can miss something. So, browse should really be a first
> class citizen.
! ^_^
> Maybe we could have it together with search, on the
> filters pane, though it makes only sense for packages.
! ^_^
> * dedicated interface for upgrading. We need to give the user more
> information on the upgrades (and downgrades) available. A nice extra
> could be doing a diff between the installed ChangeLog and the available
> one, so the user can check easily what's new. (they aren't very nice).
> Maybe an extra Upgrade tab page (or Version) should be available when a
> package has multiple versions.
Yes, either tabs, or on the other hand, dropdown-lists seem a good
solution for pre-defined view-filters ('view installed', 'view not
installed', 'view upgrades', 'view third-party packages'...) Differently
coloured up- and down-arrows certainly aren't good enough (and not
intuitive).
One more ting: I think we need a way to easily tell third-party packages
from core-packages, similarly as it is easy in Ubuntu's package-manager.
>
> About the two pools approach, or the one of yast-qt, we can make it
> configurable, even through the interface, so don't loose your time
> arguing about it. :)
A simple and an 'advanced' mode, perhaps?
Martin Szulecki wrote:
> > However, feeling the need for above might aswell just be the result of
> > opensuse-updater failing to give me any hint (even a "Details" would be
> > sufficient; the current only lists official updates) at which packages
> > it would update when I click OK.
Yes, I also feel far from comfortable with the updater in its current
state.
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