Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-gnome (216 mails)

[Michael Wolf <maw@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello

As you all know, we've been discussing how to best maintain and
utilize the GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE projects. 

We discussed this in the past meeting.  The relevant part of the
transcript is here:
http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20070927/transcript#GNOME:STABLE_merge_status ;

Here's my plan.  Note that it's different from what I said in the
meeting; after further thought and discussion with a few people, I've
changed my opinion on how best to proceed.  

* GNOME:STABLE

  We'll repopulate GNOME:STABLE with the contents of the relevant
  packages as they currently exist in Factory.  As a result,
  GNOME:STABLE will soon include GNOME 2.20.0.

  Because we'll be upgrading GNOME:STABLE to 2.20.1 soon (20071017),
  we'll be copying packages, not linking them.

* GNOME:UNSTABLE

  We'll also repopulate GNOME:UNSTABLE with the contents of the
  revelant packages as they currently exist in Factory.  However, the
  future of this repository will be different.  When GNOME 21 comes
  out, we'll be tracking it closely.

  At the same time, we'll stop directly updating the GNOME packages
  directly in Factory.  Instead, packages from GNOME:UNSTABLE will be
  (automatically, I hope) synced to Factory on a regular basis.

  Tarballs for GNOME 21.1 are due on 20071029, so we'll start updating
  it then, but we can start improving our .specs as discussed in
  http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches sooner than that.

* Timeline

** GNOME:STABLE update

   I intend to start updating it on Thursday, 20071011.

** GNOME:UNSTABLE update

   Since GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE will for a time contain the
   same packages, I plan to do this at the same time as the
   GNOME:STABLE update.

* Issues and Questions
  
** Workflow

   Doing our ongoing development in GNOME:UNSTABLE will make it easier
   for anyone interested in contributing to do so.
   
   There will be some hitches for people who work for Novell/SUSE and
   use the internal autobuild system.  Expect a different mail to
   address that soon.  Its main thrust will be asking everyone to
   submit fixes to GNOME packages via the Build Service once
   GNOME:UNSTABLE has been updated.
   
** GNOME:ALMOST-STABLE?

   When will we update GNOME:STABLE to 2.22.0?  Only when GNOME 2.22.0
   is released?  When GNOME 2.21.90 is released?  Etc.

** Security
   
   We'll need help from the SUSE security team in preparing security
   updates.  I've already sent mail to Marcus, the security team lead,
   about this.  

** Other problems / questions / suggestions?

   Let me and the rest of the list know.  



I'd like to stress how important the GNOME:UNSTABLE repository will
be for all of us.  As I said above, anyone interested in shaping our
corner of the distro will have the opportunity to do so directly.  You
won't be limited to sending patches or making suggestions -- although
contributions in this form will of course always be welcome.

Additionally, since GNOME:UNSTABLE will be available for older
distros (at least on 10.3), it'll be possible to run an experimental
desktop without the risk and hassle of of an entire distribution under
development.

I think that's it.  Let the list know what you have to say.




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