Hello As you all know, we've been discussing how to best maintain and utilize the GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE projects. We discussed this in the past meeting. The relevant part of the transcript is here: http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Meetings/20070927/transcript#GNOME:STABLE_merge... Here's my plan. Note that it's different from what I said in the meeting; after further thought and discussion with a few people, I've changed my opinion on how best to proceed. * GNOME:STABLE We'll repopulate GNOME:STABLE with the contents of the relevant packages as they currently exist in Factory. As a result, GNOME:STABLE will soon include GNOME 2.20.0. Because we'll be upgrading GNOME:STABLE to 2.20.1 soon (20071017), we'll be copying packages, not linking them. * GNOME:UNSTABLE We'll also repopulate GNOME:UNSTABLE with the contents of the revelant packages as they currently exist in Factory. However, the future of this repository will be different. When GNOME 21 comes out, we'll be tracking it closely. At the same time, we'll stop directly updating the GNOME packages directly in Factory. Instead, packages from GNOME:UNSTABLE will be (automatically, I hope) synced to Factory on a regular basis. Tarballs for GNOME 21.1 are due on 20071029, so we'll start updating it then, but we can start improving our .specs as discussed in http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Patches sooner than that. * Timeline ** GNOME:STABLE update I intend to start updating it on Thursday, 20071011. ** GNOME:UNSTABLE update Since GNOME:STABLE and GNOME:UNSTABLE will for a time contain the same packages, I plan to do this at the same time as the GNOME:STABLE update. * Issues and Questions ** Workflow Doing our ongoing development in GNOME:UNSTABLE will make it easier for anyone interested in contributing to do so. There will be some hitches for people who work for Novell/SUSE and use the internal autobuild system. Expect a different mail to address that soon. Its main thrust will be asking everyone to submit fixes to GNOME packages via the Build Service once GNOME:UNSTABLE has been updated. ** GNOME:ALMOST-STABLE? When will we update GNOME:STABLE to 2.22.0? Only when GNOME 2.22.0 is released? When GNOME 2.21.90 is released? Etc. ** Security We'll need help from the SUSE security team in preparing security updates. I've already sent mail to Marcus, the security team lead, about this. ** Other problems / questions / suggestions? Let me and the rest of the list know. I'd like to stress how important the GNOME:UNSTABLE repository will be for all of us. As I said above, anyone interested in shaping our corner of the distro will have the opportunity to do so directly. You won't be limited to sending patches or making suggestions -- although contributions in this form will of course always be welcome. Additionally, since GNOME:UNSTABLE will be available for older distros (at least on 10.3), it'll be possible to run an experimental desktop without the risk and hassle of of an entire distribution under development. I think that's it. Let the list know what you have to say. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org