As Liberation fonts looking really good meanwhile Here I disagree, they are OK but really cannot compare neither to the Agfa fonts nor to the Microsoft Webfonts. The Liberation fonts render much worse because they don’t have good byte code. (They also render much worse than the DejaVu fonts which are far better in my opinion than the Liberation fonts. But the DejaVu fonts don’t aim to be metric compatible to Arial, Times New Roman, and Courier New). I propose to replace the proprietary agfa-fonts with the open source fonts for openSUSE 11.1 and future versions. I just want to add some information. The Liberation fonts contain only 3 styles and the Agfa fonts have some more. The closes matches between
Feature changed by: Frank Sundermeyer (fsundermeyer) Feature #305249, revision 38 Title: Remove agfa-fonts openSUSE-11.1: Done Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Michael Löffler (michl19) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As Liberation fonts looking really good meanwhile I propose to replace the proprietary agfa-fonts with the open source fonts for openSUSE 11.1 and future versions. Documentation Impact: RN + Note: + Requires to use the new stylesheets for building PDFs of the official + SUSE documentation (the old stylesheets (used for LE 11) require agfa- + fonts) Discussion: #1: Ciaran Farrell (babelworx) (2008-08-19 09:07:09) Sent a heads-up to Denzil Harris, wrt the Agfa contract. Everything ok from his side. #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2008-08-19 09:30:54) Just one clarification: agfa fonts should stay on SLED11, we're only discussing openSUSE 11.1. Correct? #3: Mike Fabian (mfabian) (2008-08-19 12:05:18) (reply to #2) the Liberation, the Agfa, and the Microsoft web fonts are: Liberation Agfa Microsoft Liberation Sans Albany AMT Arial Liberation Serif Thorndale AMT Times New Roman Liberation Mono Cumberland AMT Courier New Bell MT Andy MT Utah MT Andale Sans Trebuchet MS Impact Arial Black Arial Black Monotype Sorts Webdings Andale Mono Comic Sans MS Georgia Tahoma Not that although “Liberation Mono” claims to be metric compatible to “Cumberland AMT” and “Courier New”, it looks visually very different. “Liberation Mono” is a sans serif font (like “Andale Mono”) but “Cumberland AMT” and “Courier New” are both typewriter like serif fonts. I.e. “Liberation Mono” may be able to replace “Cumberland AMT” and “Courier New” without changing the formatting of a document (although even that won’t always work) but certainly the document would look very different in style. I agree thouth that probably nobody really needs the Agfa fonts, most people seem to download the Microsoft webfonts anyway. So I don’t think we do not need to keep the Agfa fonts. #5: Guy Lunardi (glunardi) (2008-08-19 09:20:05) (reply to #3) Looks like my email to Michael :-) #8: JP Rosevear (jproseve) (2008-08-19 14:52:35) I think this is basically fate #304544. Radek analyzed the liberation vs agfa situation in May 2007 for OO and found defencies as well, with at least "Comic sans MS", "MS Gothic", "Arial black", "Bell MT", "Impact", "Monotype sorts" and "Utal MH" #9: Christoph Thiel (cthiel1) (2008-09-11 16:00:48) Done for openSUSE 11.1 #10: Arseniy Lartsev (ars3niy) (2008-11-06 15:13:26) Bad idea. Liberation Sans looks TERRIBLE in comparison to Albany AMT (at least in 11.1 Beta 4). #16: Ciaran Farrell (babelworx) (2012-06-29 10:37:50) Please remember to involve Denzil Harris in any discussions concerning dropping agfa-fonts. He's the Corporate Development Group contact for the contract. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305249