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[openFATE 312673] Enable Sub-Pixel-Hinting
- From: fate_noreply@xxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:08:14 +0100 (CET)
- Message-id: <feature-312673-6@keeper.suse.de>
Feature changed by: Maxim Marinchenko (mmarinchenko)
Feature #312673, revision 6
Title: Enable Sub-Pixel-Hinting
openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Stefan Frank (stefanf74)
Partner organization: openSUSE.org
Description:
To improve the look of fonts, enable the Sub-Pixel-Hinting. The patents
that lead to subpixel font hinting being turned of by default in the
freetype2 library have now expired! So please enable this feature in
version 12.1. Ubuntu (since 10.4?) has already enabled it.
Relations:
- advanced subpixel hinting in freetype2 (feature/duplicate:
https://features.opensuse.org/312817)
Discussion:
#1: Ricardo Gabriel Berlasso (rgbsuse) (2011-07-24 14:47:26)
I think you are confusing font hinting
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinting) with sub pixel rendering
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_pixel_rendering) . They are two
different technologies. While I agree to activate hinting by default
with "soft" stile, I do not like sub pixel rendering. At least for me,
font hinting and anti aliasing: yes
sub pixel rendering: no
#2: Peter Lusmore (plusmore) (2011-07-31 10:25:33)
I think what is needed is to have the options left as they are i.e.
user selectable however the default should be on with an option to
disable so that no one is forced to take a particular path. With this
said I would go one step further and include the Subpixel hinting with
infinality patchset which is currently in the build service here:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Anamtrac%
3Asubpixel
it is only with this patch applied that fonts really achieve. their
best on laptop screens in IMHO.
#3: Stefan Frank (stefanf74) (2011-07-31 12:01:57) (reply to #2)
I agree with the proposal of Peter Lusmore, thank you for the quick
response. I think it would greatly improve openSuse to improve the
fonts. When I look at Ubuntu, which currently have just significantly
better fonts. That's one of the first things that the user perceives a
distribution.
+ #4: Maxim Marinchenko (mmarinchenko) (2011-11-25 09:07:53)
+ Hello, guys & gals!
+ Ok, we have freetype2-devel package in 12.1 at version 2.4.7 currently
+ (see:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype2-devel-2.4.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist
+
(http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype2-devel-2.4.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist)
+ ). But what about freetype package? It's currently at version 1.3.1
+ (see:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype-1.3.1-1405.1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist
+ ), which completely unsupported in upstream - that's the reason of bad
+ fonts rendering in openSUSE!
+ I propose to move to freetype2 package by default. Is that possible?
--
openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/312673
Feature #312673, revision 6
Title: Enable Sub-Pixel-Hinting
openSUSE Distribution: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Stefan Frank (stefanf74)
Partner organization: openSUSE.org
Description:
To improve the look of fonts, enable the Sub-Pixel-Hinting. The patents
that lead to subpixel font hinting being turned of by default in the
freetype2 library have now expired! So please enable this feature in
version 12.1. Ubuntu (since 10.4?) has already enabled it.
Relations:
- advanced subpixel hinting in freetype2 (feature/duplicate:
https://features.opensuse.org/312817)
Discussion:
#1: Ricardo Gabriel Berlasso (rgbsuse) (2011-07-24 14:47:26)
I think you are confusing font hinting
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinting) with sub pixel rendering
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_pixel_rendering) . They are two
different technologies. While I agree to activate hinting by default
with "soft" stile, I do not like sub pixel rendering. At least for me,
font hinting and anti aliasing: yes
sub pixel rendering: no
#2: Peter Lusmore (plusmore) (2011-07-31 10:25:33)
I think what is needed is to have the options left as they are i.e.
user selectable however the default should be on with an option to
disable so that no one is forced to take a particular path. With this
said I would go one step further and include the Subpixel hinting with
infinality patchset which is currently in the build service here:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=home%3Anamtrac%
3Asubpixel
it is only with this patch applied that fonts really achieve. their
best on laptop screens in IMHO.
#3: Stefan Frank (stefanf74) (2011-07-31 12:01:57) (reply to #2)
I agree with the proposal of Peter Lusmore, thank you for the quick
response. I think it would greatly improve openSuse to improve the
fonts. When I look at Ubuntu, which currently have just significantly
better fonts. That's one of the first things that the user perceives a
distribution.
+ #4: Maxim Marinchenko (mmarinchenko) (2011-11-25 09:07:53)
+ Hello, guys & gals!
+ Ok, we have freetype2-devel package in 12.1 at version 2.4.7 currently
+ (see:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype2-devel-2.4.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist
+
(http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype2-devel-2.4.7-1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist)
+ ). But what about freetype package? It's currently at version 1.3.1
+ (see:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.1/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/freetype-1.3.1-1405.1.2.x86_64.rpm.mirrorlist
+ ), which completely unsupported in upstream - that's the reason of bad
+ fonts rendering in openSUSE!
+ I propose to move to freetype2 package by default. Is that possible?
--
openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/312673
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