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Feature changed by: Tim Edwards (tk83)
Feature #311186, revision 7
  Title: original cdrtools
   
  Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed
  Priority
      Requester: Important
   
  Requested by: Christopher Yeleighton (yecril71pl)
  Partner organization: openSUSE.org
   
Description:
  openSuSE distributes the package wodim instead of the package cdrtools.
  The reason this happens is a claim of the Debian maintainers that the
  present license of the package cdrtools is incompatible with GPL.
  However, even if it were the case, it does not make a good reason to
  exclude cdrtools from openSuSE.
   
  Business case (Partner benefit):
  openSUSE.org: cdrtools is better maintained and it is less buggy.
   
  Discussion:
  #1: Christopher Yeleighton (yecril71pl) (2011-01-31 22:22:32) 
  See also: Many Linux distributions now come with broken variants of
  cdrtools (http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html) 
   
  #2: Tim Edwards (tk83) (2011-02-07 12:39:23) 
  This topic has been done to death, not least in the huge flamewar on
  the Debian mailing list between the cdrecord author and some of the
  Debian developers. It's not based on some half-arsed claim by the
  Debian maintainers either: all the major distributions, including the
  commercial ones Redhat and Novell, have looked at the legal
  implications of the license on cdrecord and determined that they can't
  legally distribute it.
  This is a very good reason for not including cdrtools in Opensuse.
  Plus, cdrkit (wodim etc.) is still being developed.
   
  #3: Christopher Yeleighton (yecril71pl) (2011-02-07 13:07:03) (reply to
  #2)
  Any documents to back up your claims? I am particularly interested in an
  official and verifiable statement for Novell.
   
  #4: Tim Edwards (tk83) (2011-02-07 13:30:43) (reply to #3)
  You can read the whole sordid tale here:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109)
  Even some of the Debian developers believed that the licence change was
  motivated by personal problems between them and Joerg Schilling.
  Redhat's reasoning for the Fedora project: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-July/msg00000.html
  (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-July/msg00000.html)
  From some of the Opensuse developers:
  http://lists.suse.de/opensuse-factory/2009-07/msg00054.html 
(http://lists.suse.de/opensuse-factory/2009-07/msg00054.html)
  Note here that the developers don't believe that patches to cdrecord
  get accepted upstream. And also that since these messages were posted
  cdrkit has started releasing again. Discussion on this is just beating
  a long dead horse - if you want cdrecord just head over to software.
  opensuse.org untick "Exclude user's home projects" and search - it's
  there.
   
+ #5: Tim Edwards (tk83) (2011-02-07 14:26:01) (reply to #4)
+ If you want official statements try the release notes:
+ http://www.novell.com/linux/releasenotes/x86_64/openSUSE/10.3/#15 And
+ there's nothing more verifiable than the fact that cdrkit is used in
+ all the major distros in place of cdrecord.
+ Another informative thread: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2009-January/006688.html
   
   

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