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[openFATE 310004] use network manager by default instead of traditional method
- From: fate_noreply@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:35:10 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <feature-310004-7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Feature changed by: Rob Verduijn (robverduijn)
Feature #310004, revision 7
Title: use network manager by default instead of traditional method
openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Thiago Sayao (sayao)
Description:
Use network manager by default instead of traditional method. Network
Manager integrates better with the desktop and seems easier to
configure (for example, to configure a VPN).
I'm not sure about the features the traditional method provides and
Network Manager does not, so please, discuss.
Discussion:
#1: Ilya Chernykh (ansus) (2010-06-27 08:57:27)
Bad idea.
1. Network manager cannot restore VPN connections on startup (many
users connect Internet through VPN)
2. Network manager does not remember routes correctly
3. Network manager is compatible with only limited number of desktop
environments
4. Network manager does not keep connection when exiting the session
and logging in another desktop.
- Many other drawbacks. The SUSE standard ifup- based system the most
functional of any other variants so far and easily configured.
#2: Thiago Sayao (sayao) (2010-06-27 20:13:17) (reply to #1)
Humm, i suspected there would be drawbacks. What about integrating
both?
It does not seem right to have two methods of configuring the network,
where one method works better for some things and the other works
better for others. In the best scenario there would be one method there
is the best for everything.
Some gnome apps uses network manager to check if the network is up for
example.
#3: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2010-07-01 05:41:22)
Network Manager is default last few releases.
+ #4: Rob Verduijn (robverduijn) (2010-07-05 15:34:04)
+ My biggest objection to network manager is that when using a laptop the
+ network is not started until the desktop is visible.
+ This is a serious problem when you wish to authenticate against
+ samba/ldap/radius/etc.
+ ie the network is needed for authentication, but it will not be started
+ untill after your authentication.
+
+
+ p.s.
+ Last time I checked it is default when using a laptop with a wifi
+ adapter, when using a wired (no-wifi) desktop I always find traditional
+ network management installed.
+
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openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/310004
Feature #310004, revision 7
Title: use network manager by default instead of traditional method
openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Thiago Sayao (sayao)
Description:
Use network manager by default instead of traditional method. Network
Manager integrates better with the desktop and seems easier to
configure (for example, to configure a VPN).
I'm not sure about the features the traditional method provides and
Network Manager does not, so please, discuss.
Discussion:
#1: Ilya Chernykh (ansus) (2010-06-27 08:57:27)
Bad idea.
1. Network manager cannot restore VPN connections on startup (many
users connect Internet through VPN)
2. Network manager does not remember routes correctly
3. Network manager is compatible with only limited number of desktop
environments
4. Network manager does not keep connection when exiting the session
and logging in another desktop.
- Many other drawbacks. The SUSE standard ifup- based system the most
functional of any other variants so far and easily configured.
#2: Thiago Sayao (sayao) (2010-06-27 20:13:17) (reply to #1)
Humm, i suspected there would be drawbacks. What about integrating
both?
It does not seem right to have two methods of configuring the network,
where one method works better for some things and the other works
better for others. In the best scenario there would be one method there
is the best for everything.
Some gnome apps uses network manager to check if the network is up for
example.
#3: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) (2010-07-01 05:41:22)
Network Manager is default last few releases.
+ #4: Rob Verduijn (robverduijn) (2010-07-05 15:34:04)
+ My biggest objection to network manager is that when using a laptop the
+ network is not started until the desktop is visible.
+ This is a serious problem when you wish to authenticate against
+ samba/ldap/radius/etc.
+ ie the network is needed for authentication, but it will not be started
+ untill after your authentication.
+
+
+ p.s.
+ Last time I checked it is default when using a laptop with a wifi
+ adapter, when using a wired (no-wifi) desktop I always find traditional
+ network management installed.
+
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openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/310004
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