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[openFATE 307489] Combine repositories!
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- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:26:39 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <feature-307489-4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Feature changed by: Sascha Peilicke (saschpe)
Feature #307489, revision 4
Title: Combine repositories!
openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Jason Fergus (jfergus)
Description:
openSUSE would be at least 50x easier to install / maintain if they
took a different approach to the repositories.
Look at Fedora. They dropped Core and Extras and made it one big
distribution, then all the dag, livna and freshrpms combined into
rpmfusion.org. This is what should / needs to happen with openSUSE.
For someone who is used to doing it, this is probably not that big of a
deal. To someone who is used to installing Windows and having to scour
the Internet for drivers, it's not that big of deal.
To someone coming from using mostly Fedora, Ubuntu or Debian, this is
HUGE. Fedora is simple, add rpmfusion.org and probably the adobe yum
repository and you have access to everything from drivers to flash. In
Debian, just enable non-free and contrib, then the debian-multimedia
(for mplayer, mythtv etc) and you're all set. Ubuntu really only needs
medibuntu repositories and you can get everything you need for a decent
setup.
openSUSE has a ton that need to be enabled. Emulators, Pacman, nvidia,
etc. While it is nice and simple that you have a 'one click' install
for most things, it still would be easier / simpler to just run 'zypper
install atari800' without having to add the Emulator repository.
This and the menus are the only thing that really throws me off of
running openSUSE.
Discussion:
#1: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 15:18:53)
Have you heard about http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib ? :-)
#2: Jason Fergus (jfergus) (2009-08-23 19:43:34)
Apparently I hadn't! When did they implement this? I tried finding
something along these lines during my last romp in openSUSE
land. Which was 11.2m1 if I recall.
This is the right direction!
+ #3: Sascha Peilicke (saschpe) (2010-06-24 18:26:30)
+ Unfortunately contrib is not as open as it should be, lots of package
+ are still to be found only in specialized repos (like Application:Geo,
+ Education or Games just to name a few) and lots of submitrequests are
+ declined. So contrib doesn't contain that much of additional software.
+ If all things lying around in the various OBS repos would really
+ dribble into the contrib repo than it might be of use. Otherwise the
+ repo situation remains fragmented.
+ Just as an example, I currently have 24 (!!!) repositories enabled,
+ which is _far_ to much.
--
openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/307489
Feature #307489, revision 4
Title: Combine repositories!
openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed
Priority
Requester: Important
Requested by: Jason Fergus (jfergus)
Description:
openSUSE would be at least 50x easier to install / maintain if they
took a different approach to the repositories.
Look at Fedora. They dropped Core and Extras and made it one big
distribution, then all the dag, livna and freshrpms combined into
rpmfusion.org. This is what should / needs to happen with openSUSE.
For someone who is used to doing it, this is probably not that big of a
deal. To someone who is used to installing Windows and having to scour
the Internet for drivers, it's not that big of deal.
To someone coming from using mostly Fedora, Ubuntu or Debian, this is
HUGE. Fedora is simple, add rpmfusion.org and probably the adobe yum
repository and you have access to everything from drivers to flash. In
Debian, just enable non-free and contrib, then the debian-multimedia
(for mplayer, mythtv etc) and you're all set. Ubuntu really only needs
medibuntu repositories and you can get everything you need for a decent
setup.
openSUSE has a ton that need to be enabled. Emulators, Pacman, nvidia,
etc. While it is nice and simple that you have a 'one click' install
for most things, it still would be easier / simpler to just run 'zypper
install atari800' without having to add the Emulator repository.
This and the menus are the only thing that really throws me off of
running openSUSE.
Discussion:
#1: Stephan Binner (beineri) (2009-08-23 15:18:53)
Have you heard about http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib ? :-)
#2: Jason Fergus (jfergus) (2009-08-23 19:43:34)
Apparently I hadn't! When did they implement this? I tried finding
something along these lines during my last romp in openSUSE
land. Which was 11.2m1 if I recall.
This is the right direction!
+ #3: Sascha Peilicke (saschpe) (2010-06-24 18:26:30)
+ Unfortunately contrib is not as open as it should be, lots of package
+ are still to be found only in specialized repos (like Application:Geo,
+ Education or Games just to name a few) and lots of submitrequests are
+ declined. So contrib doesn't contain that much of additional software.
+ If all things lying around in the various OBS repos would really
+ dribble into the contrib repo than it might be of use. Otherwise the
+ repo situation remains fragmented.
+ Just as an example, I currently have 24 (!!!) repositories enabled,
+ which is _far_ to much.
--
openSUSE Feature:
https://features.opensuse.org/307489
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