Feature changed by: Christoph Thiel (cthiel1) Feature #306634, revision 7 Title: Grey out services in Yast not installed - openSUSE-11.2: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by (cthiel1) + reject date: 2009-10-27 15:44:46 + reject reason: -ENOTIMELEFT for 11.2. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Desirable openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Drew Kwashnak (dragonbite) Description: Yast lists a lot of configuration options, such as in the Network services section, which users may not necessarily use or knows what it does. This is most likely with newer users to Linux and/or those who are not as involved with system/network administration. I am suggesting that if the related service is not installed (like Samba Server for example) then the configuration option in Yast should be greyed out. It gives a visual indicator of what you don't need to worry about configuring while lets you know what is installed and can be configured. Perhaps users clicking on the greyed-out icons can be greeted with a message giving a brief description of what the service does and offers a chance to install it at that point if they are interested. At that point it could drop them into the software manage screen with the required and recommended services filtered in the package list and the required ones to be already checked off so all the user has to do is click to Accept/Install them. Ultimately when I was trying to configure my openSUSE for the network, for which I am still very new to even though I've learned a lot so far, I was confused by all of the choices and ended up making a bigger mess than accomplishing what I was trying to do. PS: This is my frist openFATE entry. If I am going about this incorrectly please let me know. Discussion: #1: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-07-03 19:23:21) As I see it, yast has no knowledge which submodules are not installed, i.e. does not have a list of all potential yast modules. That would be er, well, problematic too because everytime you devise a new yast submodule you would have to edit the list of known modules, and that does not sound too feasible. #2: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2009-07-10 14:07:03) I remember there were some discussions about this but I don't remember the outcome. Duncan, do you remember? #3: Divan Burger (divanburger) (2009-08-31 16:14:18) Why can not a submodule contain the list of packages it requires to function, then Yast can request the list from the submodule and thereby determine if what it requires is installed or not. If everything is not installed grey it. Some sort of cache mechanism could be used to stre the result. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306634