On Thu, Oct 17, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Thursday 2019-10-17 20:43, Thorsten Kukuk wrote:
Especially that Jan Engelhardt is changing [...] the packages of other people immeaditly!
This is a bullshit accusation and you know it.
Ok, as you affront immeaditly other people I would say, you made something terrible wrong and you know it and you have no arguments.
I am not changing the packages of other people, I am posting (similar to Richard Brown) suggestive SRs. If you still have not understood the working of OBS after what, 10 years, then I have but pity for you.
Sorry, you know how it works and you are not following it yourself.
[also] changing the packaging policy in the openSUSE wiki without anouncing it on the packagers mailing list and let them comment it for two weeks
Oh look, the magic packaging comittee (now termed "packaging team") makes an apperance again, of course half of them are not involved in the day-to-day process anymore. I think you are looking at a page which is both outdated, and has not seen application in a long time.
This doesn't matter if something changed reacently or not. You are violating the packaging guidelines and you know it. It's no excuse if you think they are outdated.
Does that invalidate the supposed process?
It does. Changing the packaging guideline without discussion and agreement, and this discussion clearly shows that there is no agreement, is a clear misuse.
the pro-remove equipe took it as such. As I have shown you before, the tooling was changed, the wiki page was not. Then the tooling was changed again, the wiki page was not (kind of making it accurate again). Then the crusade started and... needless to say, the wiki page was not updated even if, for a very tiny moment, we assume that the group removal was somehow legitimzed.
This all is no excuse that you again ignores the policies. Instead, as you know it better, the correct thing would be to make it right and show others how to do it right and not start as bad example.
So please, look around in your SUSE office before throwing glass stones.
I did, that people did made a mistake there is no excuse for you make it wrong, too.
Let the status quo persist.
So why do you not follow your own advice?
Cool, then you must reject all the group removals, because _that_ is not in the guideline either.
Please show me a single SR which I approved with group removals! Please stop sprying lies and FUD. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Distinguished Engineer, Senior Architect SLES & MicroOS SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany Managing Director: Felix Imendoerffer (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org