On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:01 AM, Richard Brown <rbrown@suse.de> wrote:
On Thu, 2019-10-17 at 10:31 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
So what are people using to find certain packages available in the repos if you you look for a category?
Discover and GNOME Software which gets their categorisations from AppData, not the nonsense, mislabelled, unstructured, invalid, and unncessary burden on packagers that is RPM Groups.
AppData already provides all the tagging and metadata nonsense which Jan seems to be crusading for, and so expecting something beneficial to be somehow accomplished by sticking on the failed concept of "RPM Groups" is downright bizzare to me.
It requires adding additional metadata on top of packaging. It's not strictly bad, it's inconvenient. If you want appstream data to be a valid replacement, contribute to every single package to actually have appstream data, otherwise, there is no point to even talk about it as a replacement. Appstream covers virtually any package type, but no distribution has managed to provide anywhere close to the coverage to make it a thing outside of strictly desktop applications. It can describe fonts, drivers, addons, cli, web and desktop apps, codecs, firmware, input methods, icon themes, services, repositories and operating systems, almost everything that exists in the distro (with the exception of libs and other devel packages). If you seriously want to suggest it, we have a lot of work to do to actually deliver on the premise of appstream.
If anyone is seriously using RPM Groups under the illusion they're remotely accurate, they'd be better served by reading tea leaves, asking a magic 8-ball, or sticking their head out of the window and asking a passing airborne porcine.
RPM Groups has been not used in CentOS/RHEL since version 5. They've been not only deprecated by our peers in Fedora but actively discoraged to be included in their packages for 2 and a half years.
Since when are Fedora and CentOS/RHEL the experts of RPM, it's not like they made it. LCP [Stasiek] https://lcp.world -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org