On 10/17/19 6:26 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
MAY OF 2018.
[4.0] JE: I'm trying to run a distro-wide endeavor here, there should be limits as to what maintainers can and cannot oppose.
This wasn't the way you worded it in your original email. If this is what your thinking it seems you are trying to run a "distro-wide endeavor" without the buy in of most of the distro. It seems while some other people think "tags" might be useful, No one else agrees that the current system is useful, the fact that the info has been removed from openSUSE's tools, maybe the only place the current groups could be really useful is to convert to a new "tag" system if there comes to a consensus on that. If you would like to work on this as a distro wide project then you really need consensus from a significant part of the distro. Part of this would be proposing what the tags would look like so that we can as a community decide they are useful and have the right level of granularity right now I have no idea what your tag system would look like so I have no idea if I think it would be useful and would support it. Maybe a wiki page with a proposal of tags would be a good starting point here. I think you also need to get buy in from the Yast team, Yast is openSUSE's package manager and if it is never going to support using tags in a meaningful way then personally I don't really see a whole lot of point in maintaining them.
OVERALL.
Opponents start killing off Group tag even though that goes directly against the goal of the Group/Tags subproject and its Supporters. Bad.
Opponents claim "it was decided", but this decision was at best unilateral and there is anything _but_ consensus about the removal. In doing so, they also overstep other maintainers [SR 738421]. Very bad.
The wiki has a strange position in all this. Many regard it as an authoritative manual, but only where it is convenient and matches practice. It is not that uncommon for parts of the wiki to end up out of date
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