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Re: [opensuse-factory] adverse effects in SLE and openSUSE relationship
  • From: Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2019 14:19:40 +0200
  • Message-id: <2367990.jFb2jJy0Lb@xrated>
Am Montag, 8. Juli 2019, 13:40:19 CEST schrieb Richard Brown:
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 11:36, Hans-Peter Jansen <hpj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

There is a process for raising concerns in this project when one
maintainer disagrees with another.
That is when the openSUSE Board should be contacted by the aggrieved
parties.

As far as I can recall, there has never been a single concern raised
by a non-SUSE employed contributor about the SLE/Leap decisions of a
SUSE employed contributor, or visa versa.

So, while I'm not naive enough to be surprised by your point, I am
highly disappointed that you and any others who feel the same as you
feel that griping in a public mailinglist is preferable to raising
your concerns to the very body that exists for when different
contributors disagree on the nature of their contributions.

Richard, there wasn't any disagreement in the process. It just took an awful
lot of time (9 1/2 month) to release a fix. Probably, I could have sped up the
process by nagging the involved parties more aggressively.

Yes, it could lead to somewhat grotesque situation, where a fix to a
*dysfunctional* package takes more than half of the distributions
*lifetime*.>
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099874

If you want fast moving changes, use Tumbleweed.

I do of course, but I can not and will not urge every openSUSE user to use TW,
should I? My wife and my son does use TW, but my brother doesn't (for good
reasons). It's always a balancing act.

The fact that all changes to Leap after release are deliberate and
very carefully examined and thoroughly worked through is a positive,
not a negative of the SLE/Leap dynamic.

Well, the point was, that some friction (in the physical sense) between SLE
and Leap projects could result in a worse product (from Leap POV). We should
analyze and try to avoid such occurrences in the future.

Cheers,
Pete


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