Am 24.09.18 um 11:31 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar:
On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 11:26 +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Ok, so it will also get pulled in with "zypper dup --no-recommends". I'd actually like that. Because ssh is pretty broken in XFCE without it.
gcr-ssh-askpass also already has "Supplements: packageand(gpg2:gnome-shell)"
Supplements is a reverse recommends... both are ignored by --no- recommends
Ok, so technically it does not matter, and I can do recommends: in an XFCE pacakge without having anyone else involved.
(and using --no-recommends is not 'sane', just for the record; it is a deliberate choice to ignore recommendations by the packagers)
(OT) We can discuss this maybe at a future conference, for me (and some others I know), not using --no-r just makes regular updates unbearable. Something in between "Requires" and Recommends", that is "Requires" for zypper, but only recommends for RPM would be best, so that "Stuff you really should have to make it work" could be required harder than just recommends (evince-plugin-{ps,pdf}document comes to my mind), but still be uninstalled for some really minimal systems. IMHO too many package just recommend everything that could eventually be useful for someone, and if you always patch / dup with "--recommends", then the system inevitably grows every time by a significant amount. So something between "black" and "white" would be useful, granted, but we don't have that yet. Thanks for all the input! -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org