On 04/14/2017 02:15 PM, Martin Herkt wrote:
On 2017-04-14, Fri 13:29:54 CEST stakanov wrote:
In data venerdì 14 aprile 2017 12:06:49, Rüdiger Meier ha scritto:
Both possibilities would be
better than what we have now.
Why?
IMO because it’d be better for the KDE project to focus on the core experience while some applications could be split off to provide benefits to all environments, not just KDE. NIH syndrome is bad. There’s no good reason to keep gnome-keyring and kwallet around when independent password managers like KeePassXC could be integrated instead (just think of people who are using more than one machine/OS). There’s no reason for both gvfs and kio to exist when the same could be achieved with better FUSE integration. There’s no reason to have a completely useless KDE-specific web browser (as much as I used to like it in the old days). There’s no reason to have a KDE-specific BitTorrent client that is unable to seed properly and tends to crash. There’s no reason for a KDE-specific terminal emulator (qterminal exists now). There’s no need for most of kded. There’s no need for a KDE-specific screenshot utility. There’s no need for Calligra.
In short, putting tons of completely superfluous and half-baked code out of commission and eventually replacing it by integrating existing solutions which are actively maintained by larger communities might be the way to go.
Moreover if ktorrent and other mentioned programs would be developed independently then one could just easily try out a newer (probably fixed) version without upgrading whole kde which brings usually much more problems and surprises as we've learned from the past. It's about "trust" as mentioned in these very long and good posts from Richard Brown. I've learned to not trust any K* programs anymore. For example I was using kopete many years ago as ICQ messenger. Because AOL was changing their protocol every few months kopete stopped working very often. Following the fixed kopete upstream was nearly impossible without also upgrading whole KDE or better the whole distro. I've learned from such experiences that I should avoid any K* programs to have less pain in future. And KDE does not seem to be willing to improve things. Instead they just go one step further into the wrong direction, distributing their own distro to have even more freedom to make dependencies and incompatibilities worse. I don't believe that such a KDE distro will bring back many users. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org