On 04/03/17 05:21 AM, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
In practice, systemd works best on hobby systems. Less than 128GB of RAM, not much stuff going on, but some dynamic stuff (USB sticks being plugged and unplugged, WIFI connections, fast SSD storage). Unfortunately those are not the machines "where the money is". The bugs / problems I'm finding in everyday usage are on other types of machines, where it becomes absolutely clear that this stuff was obviously not heavily tested besides some hobby-class machines.
There's a lot of operational and business psychology going on there that you are not taking into account. "Hobby-class" contexts are more likely to experiment and work with bleeding edge, innovative and uncertain configurations. Why? Because they are not "business critical". It's not that the 'business critical' workhorses are flawless, its that they are known quantities, and the conservative mindset of the higher level business decision makers are conservative about such things. I would be too. Heck, I am; my experiences with Tumbleweed recently have me running back to 13.2 and taking baby steps into 42.1 !!! Once you are dealing with large footprint machines there are quite different sysadmin issues from smaller ones, and in turn the smaller footprint (ironically more cores but less memory & storage than desktops) of 'phones are a different sysadmin issue as well[1]. (In some ways its it a bit like managing older MS-Windows!) As for "not heavily tested besides some hobby-class machines", well that might be an indictment of Linux as a whole rather than systemd in particular :-) It probably is more a statement about numbers, the distribution of end users who are willing to try out newly released software[2]. It is inherent, as I say, in the psychology of the people concerned, the classic curve or 'early adopters' vs 'late adopters' that many pundits in the industry have written articles and books about. [1] So where can I get a kernel update for my Samsung S2 and S3, possibly one that uses systemd? [2] Without it being forced on them ala Windows-10 updates, whether they like it or not. At least with Linux I can choose whether or not to install specific updates & patches. Those poor Windows-10 users don't have such control of granularity. -- I Just Work Here Maxim: No salesperson, engineer, or executive of a company that sells or designs security products or services is prepared to answer a significant question about vulnerabilities, and few potential customers will ever ask them one. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org