Simon Lees composed on 2016-08-22 10:14 (UTC+0930):
Felix Miata wrote:
Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar composed on 2016-08-22 22:19 (UTC+0200):
...Optical drives are just not that common anymore...
If all you think about are cellphones, tablets and laptops, I'm sure that's true. However, there remain various common environments in which the flexibility of a more traditionally sized computer is important.
Not counting floppies, all the non-optical solid state media I own would easily fit inside the space a 3.5" HD consumes, while a 1000 litre or larger box would be required to fit all my OM (with their various sized protectors).
USB media still hasn't come close to the ample labeling space and use-once-&-discard pricing that OM enjoys.
IMO the time has not yet come to put OM drives in the same category as floppy and zip drives, and it may not even come in our lifetimes.
Just to confirm we are talking about removing this from the default install (when doing a text only install) not from removing it from openSUSE entirely, if you in particular still need this then feel free to install it when you do.
Based off the fact my new laptop like a lot doesn't have a CD drive I
I would think using a laptop as context would be contrary to the reality of those heavily dependent on console tools.
guess that day is coming, I swapped to keeping 1 or 2 flash drives to dd images on for doing distro installs a fair while back.
I think the differentiation where trying to make here is do _MOST_ people installing the console tools pattern need a CD burning program, I would presume that most systems that people run as console only aren't
Why would you make that presumption? I would expect console tools users to be among those who want the most power from their system, which would not be phone, tablet or laptop users, but users of systems with the largest possible flexibility, full size keyboards, and the most available bays, stuffed with devices to make those bays useful.
being used for CD burning so I tend to agree with removing it.
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