On 10.08.2016 17:21, Dominique Leuenberger / DimStar wrote:
On Tue, 2016-08-09 at 22:17 +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
If there is no such "disaster", just move on and get v3 into Factory. Noone cares about non-OBS buildservices either for all the other packages which get thrown into Factory. ffmpeg is not special.
I object of producing a dump of many packages - with any package, if somebody raises an issue to be seen against other packages that are of importance, Tumbleweed Release Managers try to take this into account.
This is for example the reason why legacy packages like pangox stayed around for so long - nothing in the distro cared for it, but sound reasons were given that 3rd parties rely on it and in an attempt to not make this more complicated / error prone, it remained.
ffmpeg is no different - knowing that we break multimedia packages in 2 well-known 4rd party OBS instances is definitive reason enough for me - and I have still not heard a good reason for ffmpeg 3.x other the fact that it has a higher version number.
Cheers, Dominique
Are you seriously arguing for obsolete packages in a supposedly "rolling" distribution while having 2 potential solutions presented: 1) Updating or fixing the actual broken package; 2) Backporting fixes for broken package or keeping its old dependency (which, being a library framework, supports parallel installation of multiple versions) ? And the counter-argument against you is "Noone cares about non-OBS buildservices", "ffmpeg is not special." ? I don't even know which one is more baffling. I wonder, do any of you actually using your personal system without multimedia apps at all ? Do you even have X-server installed ? Anyway, if the real issue is with VLC, then you shouldn't bother with too many hacks or risk ffmpeg bitrotting. VLC maybe popular on Windows but it's just too damn clunky and slow-developing. Unless vlc-beta isn't working _and_ there is no patches to backport, don't even waste time pondering, update ffmpeg !