-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 10/23/2015 5:21 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Per Jessen composed on 2015-10-23 21:22 (UTC+0200):
Claudio Freire wrote:
I don't really like removing SuSEfirewall2. The rationale, avoiding perl, seems to be the motive. Most of that is to avoid pulling in perl. But a firewall is quite an important part of any installation really, I would consider an installation, even if minimal, without a firewall, quite irresponsible.
Exactly!
That presumes the instant server isn't behind a firewall already. It should be up to those who need to be behind one or more firewalls to ensure it/they happen on purpose, and not by accident of an installer's defaults when the goal is "minimal".
I'd personally consider zypper to be essential. The zypp framework isn't tiny, but it's necessary to perform key package management tasks on a SUSE system such as updating in a reasonably easy manner. Same goes for things like aaa_base, and we'd still need things like mv/cp and a compact text editor such as nano. I wouldn't recommend using busybox to replace the core system utilities as that could break scripts that expect a full bash shell. I'd consider the kernel non-essential in a paravirtualized environment provided by Xen or KVM, since a kernel is supplied by the hypervisor itself at boot time. Of course, this wouldn't work in a fully virtualized or bare-metal environment. Perhaps we need separate patterns for paravirtualized/container and bare-metal/fully-virtualized environments, and have the system choose the right pattern depending on the detected platform? If an extremely small installation is designed in such a way that certain administrative tools are not available, it's best to note that in /etc/motd to ensure that the user isn't left helpless when programs like YaST and vi aren't available. - -- Brian "DragonLord" Wong http://www.fierydragonlord.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWKqgdAAoJEEUv29mnaAr0LA4QAM2tQ4HP5znV7KXbwZdPH8fo yKjXQwTPTCsuqVVQCvsN7gmFfeguOTYGRCvIsbXV+B7Q0AYC0kXYcOO0ttbLj5vZ wToXGc2Ay3Xlw3TWnAcrValj2MYVbifyajDqWmDNemmwBKWTF+AQ9Nu+34mVG0XC 3NcJaCEZH0nuQi4w1BDEl5a7No4ST88CBWumj0+ulgt4+fg1uruR7XiVHzD5Lk7Q t42YkyqFm2NxZcsH3ZRB0FGlcodBnc2DHOG84GiEV5rfkTbxyzV33upTc9Eh6NQ0 qZz1LsG2S17p2gDGe6yu908m/e0E8+vcfDiqc2EX3EJ7YfCtN8ci7XvDZx2bRBOZ QyR0Psb9cwIMJCIHm5g4T6yudebrdbt9rKXGsAN4RN+jiCV3GsAU46S534I392Kq ddMuHDKQ+deKphWoUpniQxQ0DwIZR5rkrXMCbhhlpUEB2VYBE0Ns6Ulqap9NZ9EN z3fRakbP2C9Nm2RljAPC8vsYXtJLhSNjMZkVngvfQWdN4VJ6AUGjMZDZ1iIljtDf s5RUNazQQ5gWLftnKDbv4VXWyCqL84+If9mUEI79d3ii9fu8jRsqit17uNTJ/dvd R6ec94flOneZ1Y4silFEY7W5ooH4tWDfkfdIdarK1rWe28OkNdNtFHYO83x7XU9q +sSaP0qY4EmVMZBfjgPB =ZvNt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org