On 19 October 2015 at 15:01, jcsl <trcs@gmx.com> wrote:
Hi.
Currently we have repositories with the latest versions of desktops and some applications (KDE, GNOME, Mozilla, ...) Will they be available for Leap too?
Greetings.
Hi, I do not want to speak for the individual maintainers for those individual repositories - Whether or not they want to make repositories for that purpose is a decision for them to make. I'm about to express below my opinion, but ultimately, it's up to our maintainers, and they're fully within their right to ignore everything I say now.. but personally speaking, if I was in their shoes, I would _not_ bother with 'latest version' repos for Leap. We have Tumbleweed for the 'latest of everything' use case. It's a LOT easier for us to maintain a fully rolling release, than trying to keep a constantly moving software stack (GNOME, KDE, Mozilla) working ontop of a static base. Most of the time, when something goes wrong, it's often easily fixed by updating to the latest things from upstream or updating something somewhere else in the stack to fix the integration issues. And if it's easier for us to maintain (and test - Tumbleweed has openQA, something which none of those projects currently do) it's less likely to break for our users.. Lots of work has gone into Leap to make it a STABLE distribution. It's taken us months to put it together and make it work right. A lot of that work has been integrating the chosen versions of all those software stacks so it can act as a stable, curated, consistent, operating system, which should serve everyone who downloads it well until at least 42.2 comes out a year from now. Such stuff doesn't happen overnight, has required lots of work and lots of testing from lots of different angles. No addon repository is going to have that level of scrutiny and effort. Furthermore, taking individual software stacks, and piling them ontop of a static base, is a lot more work for our maintainers to do, and it doesn't take much for people to be able to make very horrific combinations that would just never work. Just look at the 'old Tumbleweed' model (Tumbleweed from before Nov 2014) - that was our old regular releases, with an addon repository with a selection of new packages (GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, Kernel) maintained and curated by a renowned kernel developer, but even then it broke a lot, because it's frankly harder to build something that works, and stays working, that way. More integration points, more ways stuff can go wrong, especially when still trying to do it at a pace that follows the upstream projects, but that unmoving base makes it harder to find solutions to make it right. So, my hope would be that we start moving away from that model. If you want the latest of everything, use Tumbleweed, where the entire Tumbleweed community works together to make sure the resulting distribution is integrated, consistent, tested, and working If you want something more stable and that changes less, use Leap If you want something in between..well, good luck, but the chances are that you're going to end up creating a monster that will bite you sooner or later, and it's going to be pretty hard for anyone to help you in that case.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org