Le mardi 04 février 2014 à 12:44 +0100, Raymond Wooninck a écrit :
On Tuesday 04 February 2014 10:41:15 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Frederic Crozat wrote:
Le mardi 04 février 2014 à 06:14 +0100, Raymond Wooninck a écrit :
On Sunday 02 February 2014 12:24:29 sfalken@opensuse.org wrote:
Only package remaining is Plymouth and I guess that people rather see it disappear than to help out.
No, I don't want to see it disappear at all (since it has replaced all other boot splash alternative, for the good) but I don't have time to maintain it.
To be honest, I also don't want to see it disappear. But sometimes a harsh statement is required to get attention. And it worked in this case, however as seems to be normal for this mailinglist, the discussion went into a different direction. :(
If nobody else is volunteering, I'll take the ownership of the package..
How long does the average system nowadays take until X starts up? If there is a black screen for a few seconds, so what? That's the time the initrd takes to load if plymouth is in there anyways ;-)
As already has been indicated, not everyone has super deluxe systems with high performance SATA and SSD drives. Let's also not forget why we implemented Plymouth. It was a long time request from our users to implement it in order to achieve a more seamless looking boot process from grub to login manager. We managed to integrate plymouth in 12.3 and it was received very well. by our users and also we got good reviews for it.
Yes, Plymouth might not be 100% optimal for all possible configurations and we saw (and still see) issues with certain NVidia drivers and for some also using encryption does not always show the required login prompt. Unfortunately I was never able to reproduce the last issue, as that I don't have any LUKS or encryption setup on my small laptop.
Ludwig is indicating that a black boot screen might be acceptable by our users, but the question arises then, what is going to establish that black boot screen ? I never tried it, but I guess with Plymouth disabled we will just have the systemd status messages scrolling over the screen. Is this really what we want to present to our users ?
Clearly, no, unless we target server people ..
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Frederic Crozat