So, ifup only works if you have a desktop with a single wired card (which appears to be your case).. But this is not the major group. A lot of people has wireless cards, and ifup doesn't work in these case.. There's a lot of situatios like this, including, the review of 13.1 in DistroWatch. distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20131202#feature In my case, I have 2 wired cards. In ifup, I only can switch with these card if I restart te system, becauase systemctl restart network.service doesn't work, probably because it is an ugly shell script. With NetworkManager, I even needs to restart the service, but systemctl restart NetworkManager works properly (and disabling and enabling the network through the utility on KDE/GNOME work too). And also, with a single wired card, I don't see problems with NM. Ignacio ----------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 20:10:03 -0500 From: mrmazda@earthlink.net To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Why openSUSE still uses ifup by default?
On 2013-12-03 22:44 (GMT-0200) Ignacio Areta composed:
So, the question is in the subject. I'd like to understand the motivation behind this choice. In my opinion, NetworkManager should be the default for network setup. The use of ifup doesn't show any advantage: configuration for WiFi is problematic (and sometimes for wired networks too), it increases the startup time and the service doesn't restart properly.
OK, NetworkManager has its problems too, but it's a better solution than this, specially for newbies in this distro.
So, does someone have any plans to change this?
I hope no default change any time before NM does more maturing. Ifup is KISS, much better for the many systems using a single more secure wired connection and needing 0 "management", especially by a complicated, larger and buggy manager. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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