Quoting Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com>:
Am 28.11.2013 23:53, schrieb Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger:
gsynaptics.. which is an ugly tool and provides no additional functionality (in my view).
Hey, GNOME is also an ugly tools and provides no additional functionality (in my view) -- but that's certainly not a reason to drop it, is it? ;-P
Sure.. let's drop gnome.. I start to not care anymore. It would certainly gain me some spare time. Apropos aesthetics: http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/images/gsynaptics2.png must be really looking great to you then.
Can gsynaptics be used without gnome? If yes, we probably should keep it (and just make sure it is not started in a gnome session).
Meta answers.. are useless, sorry. do you REQUIRE gsynaptics? It's bit rot.. nobody cares for it.. there is no upstream left.. My original mail contained the sentence: "The daemon is configured to only fire up in a gnome session," note the word 'ONLY' in this sentence.
There are desktops beside gnome, and the gnome tools lately have the tendency to be unusable without a full gnome session (gnome-bluetooth, gnome-power-manager), so we need to keep alternatives around.
Why would you even EXPECT anything called GNOME-* to be usable out of GNOME? the GNOME devs have the perfect right to make those tools work for their desktop. The GNOME devs care for GNOME (is that really such a surprise)? If Desktop XYZ feels like using code from GNOME is the right thing, no objections. But stop ranting if you can't use it in every moment the way you expect it.. For gsynaptics: it was a proposal to drop (no drop request filed yet). Get in touch with the maintainer of the respective author and see if usecases can be worked on. Ranting around and just expecting nothing breaks on things outside of gnome is just ridiculous (note: this does not apply to GStreamer, Bluez, upower, systemd and any other non-gnome core component) I wish people would actually answer with knowledge... not based on feelings and rants. /me goes away for the day.. this is getting ridiculous. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org