On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 12:05 -0500, Robert Schweikert wrote:
I think you make a number of valid points. However I think the "cannot keep up" statement is a bit too far toward the "black and white" end of the spectrum. In the end the whole process tends more toward "eventual consistency", I think, and thus a big part of the discussion needs to be timing, IMHO.
A fair point. Apologies to anyone who took offence at my choice of words
Just because one upstream project decides to work earlier with changes being implemented somewhere else than another upstream project doesn't necessarily imply that the later one does not or cannot keep up. Nor should this be used to "penalize" maintainers that care for upstream packages that might move a bit slower. As you point out it is a matter of choice and we have to decide how to deal with these things.
I think in the end we probably cannot create some "general guideline" and will always be stuck with making these decisions on an individual basis. As a distribution we are trying to create a consistent set of "features/versions" on a given release cycle, ours, which by definition is an overlay of the release cycle of many upstream projects. This also implies, IMHO, that we have to be sympathetic for those maintainers that are supporting packages in openSUSE that may not have as vigorous or well funded upstream projects as others. Additionally, from my point of view, that would also imply that those in a position where upstream moves a bit faster than other upstreams, in adopting changes in shared functionality, should be approachable and be willing to help make things work in other areas. I am NOT implying that this is not the case, I think it is, just explicitly stating things.
I agree. I don't think its feasible for a "general guideline" in either direction, be that my preferred "stick as close to upstream as possible" approach or one that is less rapid in pace. Probably best we keep on as we have been, and discuss the issues on a case by case basis when they come up -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org