* Stephan Kulow
This is what I think too. You only move problems and while you may (I don't even believe in that part to be honest) ease the work of the release team, you make it 100x harder for users to pick a stable base to work with. Because the dependencies are still there, but to test version 17 of X together with version 22 of GNOME together with version 8 of evolution you need to update to version 11 of Networkmanager and that then only works with the latest CORE, which then unfortunately is no longer available for X - and at that time you switch to gentoo and compile it all yourself (of course I forgot like 29 components).
Maybe you forget one important thing: Interest of package maintainers to have their stuff building/working on openSUSE. The KDE and GNOME maintainers are a good example, usually maintaining two or more versions in parallel. I as a user can choose which one to install. Give the package/component maintainers more responsibility and they will live up to it. [...]
IMO the problem is a) Factory is too big and unstructured
Isn't that exactly what Robert's proposal is addressing ?
b) Basically everyone can change almost everything
That's a problem indeed. The Kernel development model, with the benevolent dictator and his lieutnants seems to work quite well. Can we adopt this to openSUSE ?
c) Branches are only possible in theory - in practice there are too many problems to be usable
Can you name the problems ? Problems exist to be fixed.
d) Too few people actually care and fix problems of importance
As stated above, give people responsibility, make people responsible. Thanks, Klaus -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org