Hi, work on E17 is still in progress but I believe that E17 is very well usable for everyday use already. I'd like to make E17 available for openSUSE users through installer and on DVD. Unfortunately DVD is already more than full so to get something in means get something out at the same time. There is one obvious choice - LXDE doesn't seem to be much alive. This doesn't mean that packages would be dropped, it only means that packages won't be available on DVD and installation choice would be removed. I see also another way possible - enhance installer to offer desktop environment if there is Internet connection and install from network. Even though it sounds correct it may mean a lot of work... So possible choices: 1] no E17 is needed on DVD 2] get rid of LXDE finally 3] YaST installer should be fixed Please, tell me your opinion here. Best regards, Tomas Cech Sleep_Walker