Hi, currently /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/58-suse-post-user.conf defines the Mircosoft fonts Arial (sans serif), Times New Roman (serif) and Consolas (monospace) as defaults. So they are used if installed by package "fetchmsttfonts". I get 2 problems from this: 1. The gui design changes when installing "fetchmsttfonts", at least for the monospace font-family. I think for the "sans serif" and "serif" families openSUSE delivers fonts it bought which try to look like "Arial" "Times New Roman" so these font-families look may not change. Usually I want to install "fetchmsttfonts" because I get office documents using those fonts and I want them to be displayed as intended or I work with someone on a document using those fonts. But I don't want them as default! 2. "Arial", "Times New Roman" and "Consolas" perform bad. For example Consolas doesn't gives me the dots above the german "Ö" when using sizes smaller then 10pt. For me the free DejaVu family seems to work quite well. Now I'm working with a default fontsize of 8 in X which was completely unusable with MS-fonts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts Debian and Ubuntu use "Bitstream Vera" and DejaVu (which is based on "Bitstream Vera") as default. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitstream_Vera Wikipedia tells "Bitstream Vera" misses much symbols. So DejaVu might be the the better choice. What do you think about setting the DejaVu family as default for the next openSUSE? Thanks colAflash -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org