* Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@suse.com> [2013-02-05 10:24]:
Le mardi 05 février 2013 à 10:20 +0100, Guido Berhoerster a écrit :
- Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [2013-02-05 07:13]:
On 05/02/13 00:54, Guido Berhoerster wrote:
- Yamaban <foerster@lisas.de> [2013-02-04 14:10]:
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:54, Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@...> wrote:
On 02/04/2013 09:19 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=99636
Grub2 will be used on machines that have no UEFI boot, that is. most less-than-current hardware.
It is *not* dead, it is just that grub will not be used when a dramatically simple solution like gummiboot is available. True. Basil, please show us a bootloader as simple as gummiboot for normal BIOS and you will be the hero of many.
There are many days were I would prefer LILO over Grub (1 or 2).
A question to the more knowledgeable: Would "syslinux" derivate "extlinux" [1] be able to fill this role? It already fills this role for probably 95% of all usecases*. It doesn't have extensive filesystem support (only ext4 and btrfs) but then you can use a boot partition as with grub1.
[*] notable exceptions are TPM support which I use and which is only supported by TrustedGRUB, a fork of grub1, and support for EFI, but that is already in the works for syslinux as well; so the overengineered monstrosity that is grub2 is pretty redundant and hopefully soon completely irrelevant
The best description of grub2 I have seen: "overengineered monstrosity".
But you know, all this is now *REALLY* confusing the whole picture - now there is TrustedGRUB :'( .
TrustedGRUB is a fork which adds support for a TPM and can basically verify the integrity of the system if you have the necessary hardware, I haven't looked into the details but from what I understand UEFI secure boot might be able to provide the same functionality.
No, Secure Boot is different from TPM.
But you can use it to verify the integrity of the bootloader and build a chain of trust from the firmware into the OS, no? Though a TPM can be used to verify the firmware/BIOS itself. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org