Hi all. So Tumbleweed is, I think, almost 2 years old now. It seems to be working fairly well, or at least well enough for my daily use, and I haven't heard any complaints about it in a long time which means that either no one is using it, or it's working for others :) Anyway, with the advent of 12.3 soon, I have been thinking if Tumbleweed needed to change any to make things work better. My original set of complaints a year or so ago about OBS issues that keep us having a "proper" rolling distribution, still pretty much are the same: - the build-number issue - build speed - dependancy rebuild problems. Build speed of OBS has increased recently, I don't know if it's just my imagination, or if I have a higher priority for my repos now, or if new hardware really was added to the build system, but I'm happy things seem to be working better in that area at the moment. But the other two issues are still big ones, as the recent GNOME update in Tumbleweed proved quite well. So, I was thinking about maybe, when 12.3 changing Tumbleweed from being an "add-on" repo on top of the 12.3 repos, to being a "full" distro snapshot. That would resolve the build number problems we have had, but the dependancy rebuild issue would increase. The rebuild problem can be manually handled, much like FACTORY currently is, but odds are, I would lean toward the conservative side, having more rebuilds than are probably necessary just to ensure that systems work well. That means that libreoffice would be updated on a weekly basis for users, which might get annoying over time :) Any thoughts by anyone about this? Or should I just do it and see how well it works out? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org