Quoting Stefan Seyfried
Am 21.01.2013 20:39, schrieb Robert Schweikert:
I would argue that the devel project maintainers should be protected from themselves and release managers should be protected from auto submits after feature freeze.
I would argue that Factory contributors should be protected from "feature freeze" for a Product they are not submitting for.
I'm submitting stuff to Factory if I think it's ready for Factory. If I think it is an important fix for 12.2, I submit it to 12.2. 12.3 likewise.
Err... aren't we all working on the 'next release of openSUSE', which at this time happens to be 12.3? Factory is not a distribution of it's own.. it's the 'sandpit' where we work towards the goal of reaching 12.3. The upmost goal of every contributor to Factory should be a solid release, no?
One example is that we should start testing bluez5, which surely never will go into 12.1, 12.2, 12.3. But should we delay it until summer just to wait until 12.3 is out of the door?
12.3 will be out in March.. In countries in the northern hemisphere this is the transition from Winter to Spring (still far from Summer).. arguably, of course, in the south, this is AFTER summer... so no issue there :)
This implies that after feature freeze anything that goes through "auto submit" goes to a queue or that "auto submit" is disabled between feature freeze and branch.
No, this implies that at the time of the feature freeze, 12.3 project should have been created and detached from Factory.
IF we would do that, this would result, as coolo already mentioned, in a full distraction of resources to Factory and having 12.3 split off and kept in bad state... if THIS is the way the project is heading, I see a big sign of doom at the end of the tunnel... We should strive to increase the quality of the distribution (which is especially measured on the dates of releases) and not increase the rate of breakages... Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org