-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-09-19 20:54, Lars Müller wrote:
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:14:29PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, I assume that the people that did the packaging of JRE in the past would know how to create that rpm in an instant. For me it is next to impossible.
You started to work on it and I guess you're on the right way. See my last reply. You need to enhance it further. And find others willing to colaborate with you. That's what the Open Build Service is made for!
The OBS is greek to me, I can not go that way.
But this fake rpm doesn't need maintenance, it stays the same for the entire life of a distro, I believe. You don't even need to bump versions, because the real rpm containing java is installed by the user, it is his responsibility.
But a user expects to get updates if it's this easy to install something. If we make it easy to install we have ti ensure to make it easy to maintain it to.
The rpm I propose is only a dummy, the user has to install and update himself the real rpm. It needs little work or none from the community once the rpm is created.
I don't claim to have the solution for the issue. But before we offer something as part of the openSUSE project we need to make a bit more than only one step.
The task of this rpm is only to fool yast (or whatever word you like)
If you write on this list try to learn the terminology. It's not about what I or anyone else likes it's about what we disduss and to make our communication easier and even as precise as possible.
Sorry for being this pedantic. Here this is a feature and not a bug. ;)
Sorry, but to me the expression "fool yast" is correct. I want yast to believe that java is installed when it is not, and that in English is said as fooling someone. At the moment I don't know how else to express that in English and it is quite precise. If you have another idea of how I should say that, please say what should I say, not that I should not say "fool someone". I don't know how else to say it.
so that we do not need to install another java.
If someone wants to provide one that also does the fetching and installing, that would be wonderful - but it is not really needed.
It is needed. See above.
It is more complex and needs maintenance. I'm not asking for it.
Please move the pros and cons to a wiki page. As a starting point you might take the questions I raised with this mail http://lists.openSUSE.org/opensuse-factory/2012-09/msg00736.html
If I knew how to do it I would do it in minutes. I don't, so I ask somebody else to create that dummy rpm, that's all. Talking about it is pointless, even more a wiki page. What for? That's what committees are created in politics. :-( - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBaKAAACgkQIvFNjefEBxptigCghtWfNvjXjiP2aCyYKwus1IoI lyQAn2rwzyKhHQVvtOoA7VaWl8xr7aL+ =Y5Zw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org