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Re: [opensuse-factory] Anyone dualbooting 12.1 and 12.2?
On 2012/06/06 15:48 (GMT+0800) Michael Chang composed:

Felix Miata composed:

Fedora 15's Legacy Grub users cannot chainload from 15 to F16's or F17's
Grub 2. I've yet to notice a parallel mention for openSUSE on the Factory or
English lists.

One possibility is the boot sector is empty, due to FC's grub2 not
support installing to partition boot sector?

Would you point me to those list? I'm quite interested. :)

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-April/106994.html
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835

So if you found anything deficiency for Gurb2 that legacy Grub could
offer, please feel free to file a bug. :)

I've been subscribed to the help-grub mailing list for several years, which results in a lot of bug mail from Grub's bug tracker, in addition to help mail traffic.

Grub 2 development seems to have proceeded much like KDE4. Grub 2.0 appears to be about where KDE 4.0 was, or maybe 4.2 or 4.3, considerably short of 4.8, which for many KDE3 users still isn't good enough.

Grub 2 changes are also rather radical, including incompatible naming and menus. There remains too much to be done for me to attempt to use Grub 2 at all, as there's nothing I need from Grub Legacy that it cannot provide. I have no EFI or LVM systems. I don't encrypt partitions. With RAID I put Grub on non-RAID /boot partitions. I have upwards of 30 operable systems, nearly all of which are multiboot, and work satisfactorily with Grub Legacy, and in many cases, IBM Boot Manager as primary bootloader.

Grub 2 is a mini OS that needs to be coupled to an installed OS, where many files and scripts must live, unlike Grub Legacy. With Legacy, I can boot a live media, copy a small handful of files to a HD partition, make a menu.lst and device.map there, and install to a partition from a Grub prompt, leaving me a working bootloader on that HD, even though no OS has yet been installed. Nothing like that simplicity is possible with Grub 2.

For the best possible user experience, I suggest investigating use of AiR-Boot as an alternative to Grub 2 for those whose needs cannot be met via Grub Legacy, and considering the possibility that for some common environments Grub Legacy may indefinitely remain preferable to Grub 2.
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Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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