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[opensuse-factory] Re: Security or Convenience? Defining a better policy
- From: Joachim Schrod <jschrod@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 23:52:50 +0200
- Message-id: <jpjm7i$7pa$1@dough.gmane.org>
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Executive summary of MHO: No, but naive users don't know it. They
work on a different abstraction level.
The use case looks differently to them -- their demand is not to
switch filesystems, but they have demands where the technical
solution is to switch it.
Use case 1: Just a few weeks ago, an openSUSE user from my Tai Chi
group asked me how to place 2GB+ files on their new shiny new cheap
USB 1TB disk, that came vFAT pre-formatted. And she's definitively
a naive Linux user; whom I sometimes address to get the opinion of
a non-technical user. In fact, she didn't know that there are
different file systems; I had to guess that the disk came
pre-formatted. Reformating to ext4 or xfs is the obvious solution,
but YaST doesn't provide a ready-made "Prepare this disk as a
native openSUSE disks that supports large files" that I could cite
at Tai Chi training time. ;-)
Use case 2: Prepare a disk in a way that it can be read on almost
every computer system today. (Stefan cited that use case already,
no need to repeat it for longer.)
Therefore: I see the need for the functionality, but I don't see
how it should be presented to non-geek end users.
Just my 0,03 EUR (adjusted for inflation),
Joachim
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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:42:27PM +0200, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012, 14:48:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
Call for action: Review and discuss
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Security_use_cases using the following
questions:
* Are there any use cases missing?
Users who buy an external hard drive/usb stick which is pre-formatted with
e.g. fat32 but they want to format/re-partition it to fit their Linux needs.
Currently they need root privileges, have to know how to open YaST, which
module to use for formatting and after that they have to know that they
still
cannot use it because the disk belongs to root and one would have to change
the file permissions. Yet changing the file permissions is not part of the
formatting tool…
With other OSs making an external hard drive usable is a lot easier.
How often would this usecase happen do you think?
Are these just us geeks doing the fs switch to UNIX filesystems?
Executive summary of MHO: No, but naive users don't know it. They
work on a different abstraction level.
The use case looks differently to them -- their demand is not to
switch filesystems, but they have demands where the technical
solution is to switch it.
Use case 1: Just a few weeks ago, an openSUSE user from my Tai Chi
group asked me how to place 2GB+ files on their new shiny new cheap
USB 1TB disk, that came vFAT pre-formatted. And she's definitively
a naive Linux user; whom I sometimes address to get the opinion of
a non-technical user. In fact, she didn't know that there are
different file systems; I had to guess that the disk came
pre-formatted. Reformating to ext4 or xfs is the obvious solution,
but YaST doesn't provide a ready-made "Prepare this disk as a
native openSUSE disks that supports large files" that I could cite
at Tai Chi training time. ;-)
Use case 2: Prepare a disk in a way that it can be read on almost
every computer system today. (Stefan cited that use case already,
no need to repeat it for longer.)
Therefore: I see the need for the functionality, but I don't see
how it should be presented to non-geek end users.
Just my 0,03 EUR (adjusted for inflation),
Joachim
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Joachim Schrod, Roedermark, Germany
Email: jschrod@xxxxxxx
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