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[Weng Xuetian <wengxt@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Fuminobu TAKEYAMA <ftake@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > please help me translate the introduction and options into Japanese,
> > and send them to me. I'll modify the form then.
> >
> > btw, please help me add some sentence in Japanese to encourage use
> > write the input method he's now using and would like to use. because
> > in my options, there're only one Japanese method, mozc( I really have
> > little knowledge of Japanese IM)
>
>
>  - Why "IM" and "IM engine" are mixed?
>  - There are a lot of unneeded sentences make it more simple
>
>
>
> > any feedback or suggestion to him is appreciated.(eg, which input
> > method backend is the most famous and successful in Japan, anthy? skk?
> > wnn? or else?)
>
>
> Bug reports written in Japanese are acceptable?
>
> # If fcitx supports canna and separated key settings for IM-on/off,
> # I'll consider to use fcitx. Note that this is just for me :)
>
>
>
> > and Takashi didn't want mozc to be included as default IM for jp
> > locale. because it's close developed and does not accept any patch. if
> > one day it fails, japanese users will hate us because they don't know
> > the details.
>
>
> My suggestion is you should write documents about fcitx.
> Some Japanese community members are googling but they cannot find how it is.
>
>
>
> > but to tell the truth, famous bugs are still there, like input in
> > Firefox/Chromium, and etc.
> >
> > users already have bad impression on it. once they leave, it's harder
> > to call them back than newbies.
>
>
> Could you show me URLs to bugzilla of Novell or other distributions?
>
>
>
> > in my survey, there're Taiwan users who are using ibus, but vote for
> > gcin/hime.
>
>
> How many users?
> I heard he would not use gcin since it is too old.
> I don't know fcitx-chewing is OK for him.
>
>
> Fuminobu TAKEYAMA
>
> > > (12/05/11 17:09), Marguerite Su wrote:
> > > > Hi, last night I asked coolo about how to replace input methods in
> > > > ISOs. he said all I have to do is to make proposal here and cc-ed to
> > > > related parts like maintianers of those input methods and users
> > > > interested in.
> > > >
> > > > Here're the names I found from OBS. they're package maintainers. below
> > > > are their packages and locales.
> > > >
> > > >        Me myself: fcitx, hime. zh_CN
> > > >
> > > >        hillwood: fcitx zh_CN
> > > >
> > > >        swyear: fcitx, ibus, gcin zh_TW
> > > >
> > > >        tiwai: mozc, scim jp
> > > >
> > > >        ftake: mozc jp
> > > >
> > > > and if everyone feel affected or involved in this issue, please feel
> > > > free to join.
> > > >
> > > > (because those input methods also support other languages besides CJK,
> > > > although such support is minor.)
> > > >
> > > > and Here're the packages involved:
> > > >
> > > >       scim/ibus: they're the Chinese input methods in the old days.
> > > >
> > > >       fcitx/gcin/hime: they're the Chinese input methods in modern
> > > > Linux.
> > > >
> > > >       mozc: it's popular IM in Japan.
> > > >
> > > > of course they're both for Linux, and both open source works.
> > > >
> > > > and the situation is, when I freshly installed openSUSE, the first
> > > > thing I do is uninstall those old-time input methods and install new
> > > > ones. so I wonder if this situation is common, and if it is common,
> > > > why not replace them by default instead of leaving works to our users?
> > > >
> > > > so I made a survey:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://docs.google.com/a/marguerite.su/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDdoMmU2emxaMXNxc0VfNTAxSTNfUEE6MQ
> > > >
> > > > and posted on G+, forums. the temporary result I've got is this
> > > > situation is common in Chinese Community.
> > > >
> > > > (tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it
> > > > out to Japanese Community?)
> > > >
> > > > (since we do not have active Korean developers here, so no way to hear
> > > > from them. so only C and J here.)
> > > >
> > > > and my proposal is:
> > > >
> > > > 1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to
> > > > bugs and have famous bugs)
> > > > 2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's
> > > > another issue, it has a small user database)
> > > >
> > > > so guys what do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Marguerite

Some additional info, the fcitx-chewing developer used to be a hime
developer. :)
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