Hi all,
(tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it out to Japanese Community?)
Sure, how can I do? Although fcitx is much more popular and useful than IBus in Chinese community, in Japan, almost no one knows it, unfortunately. # I have a friend from Taiwan. He use ibus-chewing. Honestly speaking for further improvement of fcitx, current released version (fcitx-mozc) does not have enough quality for daily use as far as I tried. I think what you have to do for Japanese community is improving it so that you can explain how fcitx is superior than IBus in almost all point. If you show this over quick proposal to Japanese users, it might give them bad impression. You know, the reason we switch to IBus in 12.1 includes that IBus become as configurable as SCIM. I agree with dropping some old IMs from automatically installed package. I have feature request related to this: https://features.opensuse.org/313412 With regard to Mozc, it seems that the developers try to concentrate on IBus like the mozc_renderor feature. They will remove code for SCIM soon. We have to be careful. I and many Japanese users want to put Mozc into the official repository as an exception for usability. And... I'm watching the git repository of IBus and I think it is very active project. Fuminobu TAKEYAMA (12/05/11 17:09), Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, last night I asked coolo about how to replace input methods in ISOs. he said all I have to do is to make proposal here and cc-ed to related parts like maintianers of those input methods and users interested in.
Here're the names I found from OBS. they're package maintainers. below are their packages and locales.
Me myself: fcitx, hime. zh_CN
hillwood: fcitx zh_CN
swyear: fcitx, ibus, gcin zh_TW
tiwai: mozc, scim jp
ftake: mozc jp
and if everyone feel affected or involved in this issue, please feel free to join.
(because those input methods also support other languages besides CJK, although such support is minor.)
and Here're the packages involved:
scim/ibus: they're the Chinese input methods in the old days.
fcitx/gcin/hime: they're the Chinese input methods in modern Linux.
mozc: it's popular IM in Japan.
of course they're both for Linux, and both open source works.
and the situation is, when I freshly installed openSUSE, the first thing I do is uninstall those old-time input methods and install new ones. so I wonder if this situation is common, and if it is common, why not replace them by default instead of leaving works to our users?
so I made a survey: https://docs.google.com/a/marguerite.su/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDdoMmU...
and posted on G+, forums. the temporary result I've got is this situation is common in Chinese Community.
(tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it out to Japanese Community?)
(since we do not have active Korean developers here, so no way to hear from them. so only C and J here.)
and my proposal is:
1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to bugs and have famous bugs) 2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's another issue, it has a small user database)
so guys what do you think?
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