At Fri, 11 May 2012 11:56:37 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi,
Le vendredi 11 mai 2012, à 17:36 +0800, Marguerite Su a écrit :
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Vincent Untz
wrote: Hi,
Le vendredi 11 mai 2012, à 16:09 +0800, Marguerite Su a écrit :
1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to bugs and have famous bugs) 2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's another issue, it has a small user database)
so guys what do you think?
I've absolutely no opinion on this, but I find it surprising that you're suggesting to drop ibus from dvd/cd while upstream GNOME is working on deeper ibus integration for the next version: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/IBus
Do you have any information on this?
Hi, Vincent,
in my survey there're user choices to "just let scim retire"...so the final proposal relies on users' choice, this is just my temporary proposal to act as a starting point.
and my reason is:
1. does western locale needs ibus?
2. situation in C(stands for China), zh_CN people replace it with fcitx, zh_TW people replace it with gcin. so no one will use it(from current vote results, no Japanese vote now). it still has some users only because it's shipped by default.
so if no one will use it if he has choices, then why let it be there holding position in DVD and installed by default? why not install the ones users really need?
and about the GNOME thing, I have to say, no offense, they are outdated. when there're no alternatives in the old days, they do not make it better; now we have choices, they're making it. it's better say this is the previous slow reaction postponed to now, not the plan for "deeper integration". just a coincidence. it's time to free their hands and let them concentrate on something more important...of course we have to wait enough long to see it happen.
PS: btw I think we both know we are talking about do not ship them by default in DVD/CD, not to kick them off entirely from openSUSE. users like them still can install from M17N and OSS repositories. if GNOME is making it better, still good.
My point is that if GNOME relies on ibus in GNOME 3.6, then openSUSE 12.3 will have ibus on the DVD again because of GNOME. Just something to keep in mind.
IMO, dropping ibus from DVD is very unlikely option for 12.2 (I guess you meant this? ;) Using other IMs for some locales as the default is of course a different question. However, I'm a bit worried how tightly GNOME will be bound with ibus. I don't know the detail at all, so I'm writing just from the sensational title line. But I guess no hard-dependency is introduced (hopefully), if it's only about the configuration changes of ibus per gnome-settings-daemon?
And if we're unhappy about GNOME going this way -- which is fine -- then now is the best time to raise objections upstream. But I can't do that since I don't enough about input methods.
If you know any development there, please let us know. At least, it'd be good if anyone can suggest these guys that lots of people are not using ibus but other IMs. thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org