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Re: [opensuse-factory] Proposal to replace default scim/ibus input methods in ISOs with alternatives.
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:09:08PM +0800, Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, last night I asked coolo about how to replace input methods in
ISOs. he said all I have to do is to make proposal here and cc-ed to
related parts like maintianers of those input methods and users
interested in.

Here're the names I found from OBS. they're package maintainers. below
are their packages and locales.

Me myself: fcitx, hime. zh_CN

hillwood: fcitx zh_CN

swyear: fcitx, ibus, gcin zh_TW

tiwai: mozc, scim jp

ftake: mozc jp

and if everyone feel affected or involved in this issue, please feel
free to join.

(because those input methods also support other languages besides CJK,
although such support is minor.)

and Here're the packages involved:

scim/ibus: they're the Chinese input methods in the old days.

fcitx/gcin/hime: they're the Chinese input methods in modern Linux.

mozc: it's popular IM in Japan.

of course they're both for Linux, and both open source works.

and the situation is, when I freshly installed openSUSE, the first
thing I do is uninstall those old-time input methods and install new
ones. so I wonder if this situation is common, and if it is common,
why not replace them by default instead of leaving works to our users?

so I made a survey:
https://docs.google.com/a/marguerite.su/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDdoMmU2emxaMXNxc0VfNTAxSTNfUEE6MQ

and posted on G+, forums. the temporary result I've got is this
situation is common in Chinese Community.

(tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it
out to Japanese Community?)

(since we do not have active Korean developers here, so no way to hear
from them. so only C and J here.)

and my proposal is:

1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to
bugs and have famous bugs)
2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's
another issue, it has a small user database)

so guys what do you think?

Isn't gcin older than scim ?

I'm not a fans of scim (although now I'm using it). We can retire it
(not defalt) as it's upstream seems dead (or in zombie state) for a
long time.

Thanks,
Michael


Marguerite
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