At Fri, 11 May 2012 16:09:08 +0800, Marguerite Su wrote:
Hi, last night I asked coolo about how to replace input methods in ISOs. he said all I have to do is to make proposal here and cc-ed to related parts like maintianers of those input methods and users interested in.
Here're the names I found from OBS. they're package maintainers. below are their packages and locales.
Me myself: fcitx, hime. zh_CN
hillwood: fcitx zh_CN
swyear: fcitx, ibus, gcin zh_TW
tiwai: mozc, scim jp
ftake: mozc jp
and if everyone feel affected or involved in this issue, please feel free to join.
(because those input methods also support other languages besides CJK, although such support is minor.)
and Here're the packages involved:
scim/ibus: they're the Chinese input methods in the old days.
fcitx/gcin/hime: they're the Chinese input methods in modern Linux.
mozc: it's popular IM in Japan.
of course they're both for Linux, and both open source works.
and the situation is, when I freshly installed openSUSE, the first thing I do is uninstall those old-time input methods and install new ones. so I wonder if this situation is common, and if it is common, why not replace them by default instead of leaving works to our users?
You don't need to uninstall the old IMs at all. It's just a missing installation of the new IMs. See below.
so I made a survey: https://docs.google.com/a/marguerite.su/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDdoMmU...
and posted on G+, forums. the temporary result I've got is this situation is common in Chinese Community.
(tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it out to Japanese Community?)
(since we do not have active Korean developers here, so no way to hear from them. so only C and J here.)
and my proposal is:
1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to bugs and have famous bugs) 2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's another issue, it has a small user database)
so guys what do you think?
The biggest problem regarding mozc is that its development is closed. They accept no patch. Thus some people don't want to take mozc as the default input method. And, if we want other than mozc for Japanese, fcitx would be no option because it doesn't provide any other clients. That being said, unfortuantely there is no single choice to satisfy the demands for all languages. But, this is no big issue in practice. Adjusting which IM to use as default is basically an easy task on openSUSE. We have a priority list of IMs for each locale: see /etc/X11/xim.d/*. Adjust the priority of fcitx, gcin and others appropriately for your locale. The priority symlinks are included in each package. Then, modify the pattern list. Put fcitx or whatever there. But, also note that the packages including "Provides: locale(xxx)" are automatically selected when you choose the locale during the installation. This is missing in fcitx, for example. If it were, this package should have been automatically installed. Basically that's all. Of course, we can remove scim from the pattern, for example. But this will be installed automatically via "Provides:locale()" mechanism, so it doesn't matter so much. I don't know of the current situation of Korean language. Hopefully someone can follow it up... thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org