Hi, last night I asked coolo about how to replace input methods in ISOs. he said all I have to do is to make proposal here and cc-ed to related parts like maintianers of those input methods and users interested in. Here're the names I found from OBS. they're package maintainers. below are their packages and locales. Me myself: fcitx, hime. zh_CN hillwood: fcitx zh_CN swyear: fcitx, ibus, gcin zh_TW tiwai: mozc, scim jp ftake: mozc jp and if everyone feel affected or involved in this issue, please feel free to join. (because those input methods also support other languages besides CJK, although such support is minor.) and Here're the packages involved: scim/ibus: they're the Chinese input methods in the old days. fcitx/gcin/hime: they're the Chinese input methods in modern Linux. mozc: it's popular IM in Japan. of course they're both for Linux, and both open source works. and the situation is, when I freshly installed openSUSE, the first thing I do is uninstall those old-time input methods and install new ones. so I wonder if this situation is common, and if it is common, why not replace them by default instead of leaving works to our users? so I made a survey: https://docs.google.com/a/marguerite.su/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDdoMmU... and posted on G+, forums. the temporary result I've got is this situation is common in Chinese Community. (tiwai or ftake, can you please translate to Japanese and spread it out to Japanese Community?) (since we do not have active Korean developers here, so no way to hear from them. so only C and J here.) and my proposal is: 1. drop scim/ibus from DVD/CD. (they're really old and react slow to bugs and have famous bugs) 2. add fcitx/gcin/mozc in. (hime is just another fork of gcin. it's another issue, it has a small user database) so guys what do you think? Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org