Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (761 mails)

[Sven Burmeister <sven.burmeister@xxxxxxx>]

Am Sonntag, 1. April 2012, 14:36:16 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
> On Sunday 01 April 2012 12:44:02 Sven Burmeister wrote:
> > > How you came to an idea that any KDE3 user downloads all 450 packages?
> > > I think each KDE3 user installs at best 3 or 4 packages from that
> > > repository.
> >
> > 3-4? Would you mind calculating how many users that would be and how many
> > users openSUSE would have as a consequence in total? I think that it will
> > show you quite clearly that your claim does not make sense. Especially
> > since the core packages of kde3 are already more than 3-4.
>
> Core packages of KDE3 are already in the main repo. There is no need to
> install them from KDE:KDE3.

Where is the calculation to relate the download numbers to the total openSUSE 
users if every KDE3 user only uses 3-4 packages from that repo and they hardly 
get updated?

Let me help you with that. 12,000,000 downloads for the 12.1 KDE3 repo, each 
user only gets 4 packages from that repo, the packages are hardly updated 
("only a minority of packages were updated in three weeks") which gets us a 
bit towards the 3 packages per user.

Anyway, 12,000,000 downloads divided by 4 equals 3 Mio 12.1 KDE3 users. Even 
not taking into account those KDE3 users which do not use that repo, that's 
more than openSUSE had in total at the times of 11.3, 11.2, 11.1 even 
disregarding that the method used to count those numbers (11.x users) 
disregards if a counted distro version is replaced by a new version, i.e. does 
not subtract users who update their openSUSE version.

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Statistics

So I guess openSUSE is pretty much dominated by KDE3 users (>100%) or grew 
excessively since 11.3. :)

Or to take another approach: if 50% of the oS users use KDE3 it has 6 Mio 
users, if 25% use KDE3, it has 12 Mio users, 10% (approaching but still far 
off my estimate of KDE3 oS users) openSUSE would have 30 Mio users and hence 
far more than Ubuntu.

I know that not even this simple and rough calculation will make you step away 
from your ideology but hopefully it makes you a bit more reasonable when 
spreading your KDE3 popularity believes.

Sven
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