Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (715 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxx>]

On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:29:56 Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a DimStar 
wrote:
> Quoting Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@xxxxxxxx>:
> > Le lundi 05 mars 2012 à 04:11 -0500, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a
> > DimStar
> >
> > a écrit :
> > > Quoting Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@xxxxxxxx>:
> > > > Le vendredi 02 mars 2012 à 15:18 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez a écrit :
> > > > > which will likely break something else, additionally it does not
> > > > > handle suse addition "unsupported modules" which IMHO has no
> > > > > pĺace whatsoever here anyway.If there is such thing as
> > > > > unsupported module in openSUSE, it should warn laud at load time
> > > > > in the kernel message log about this fact or simple be excluded
> > > > > from the distribution completely.
> > > >
> > > > Well, the "unsupported modules" patch in module-init-tools needs to
> > > > be ported to kmod, if we want to replace module-init-tools with
> > > > kmod.
> > >
> > > For SLE or for openSUSE? What does 'supported' mean on openSUSE?
> > > If you mean for SLE: sorry, wrong audience: we do not care about this
> > > here.
> >
> > I'd like us (openSUSE) making sure we try to work with SLE in mind too
> > (since SLE is based on openSUSE), not against it (at least, when it
> > doesn't mean a lot of work dumped on openSUSE). Of course, a solution
> > could also be to reach module-init-tools maintainer or the person who
> > wrote the patch for module-init-tools and ask him to port it to kmod.
>
> I agree: not to work 'against' SLE, but being blocked by stuff which
> is for SLE is wrong for openSUSE. If it's an easy hack/fix, let's move
> it on... otherwise, if SLE folks care about it, they should also port
> the functionality or stick to the previous technology that works for
> them...
>
> That's what I have in mind when stating that openSUSE must not stall
> because of SLE decisions (This is actually the only way we can prove
> that *WE* as a community control openSUSE, and not the SLE-PM)

I agree with Dominique, patches for SLE should not block openSUSE 
development. The patch can be added whenever SLE needs it - by some 
engineers getting paid for SLE - and we should just move on.

Dominique, if you ever see openSUSE stalling because of SLE decisions, tell 
me! I don't want to see that either.

Let's just be friendly citiziens and inform our downstream SLE about this. 
I'll ping those guys that wrote the module-init-tools unsupported patch so 
that they have this on their radar.

Andreas
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