Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (491 mails)

[Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@xxxxxxxxx>]

2012/2/7 Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@xxxxxx>:
> On Tuesday 07 February 2012, Hubert Mantel wrote:
> > Dear god,
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 07, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> > > On 06/02/12 21:45, Brian K. White wrote:
> > > > Tech problem 1: A system based on scripts is infinitely more
> > > > flexible, transparent, debugable, than a system based on a binary
> > > > compiled c program. That has uncountable value and I want that.
> > > > And bonus, we already have it. Why throw it away?
> > >
> > > sysvinit is also a binary compiled C program.
> >
> > Great, irrefutable argument.
>
> Applause...
> Bash is also written in C. A script is still no C program.
> The point was that systemd does a lot more magic that just executing
> scripts (or well known binaries). Inflexible, intransparent, hard to
> debug for the enduser.


This depends on what you dub as 'enduser'. A real enduser has no SysV
init knowledge to debug, not even about shell scripting, while a
traditional linux user __might__ have. So it also isn't much of an
argument.

> > > > Personal problem: The people behind systemd refuse to acknowledge
> > > > the technical problems and refuse to either solve them or
> > > > entertain someone else solving them.
> > >
> > > have you considered that may be because it is absolute non-sense ?
> >
> > Thanks for confirmation.
> >
> >     Hubert Mantel
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