Hello, Last week and today I experimented with journal on openSUSE Factory and Fedora Rawhide. For all details, please check my blogs: http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2012/02/journal-and-syslog-ng/ and https://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2012/02/journal-and-syslog-ng-revisited-on-... As I don't know, which is a bug or a feature, here is a list of openSUSE related problems, let me know which to report in bugzilla: - output from "logger bla" (and most of the syslog messages) does not show up in the journal (output of systemd-journalctl), only in /var/log/messages (on Rawhide all logs are stored in the journal and forwarded to syslog). - when replacing rsyslog with syslog-ng (zypper rm rsyslog), rsyslog keeps running. syslog-ng can't be started with "systemctl restart syslog.service". It turned out, that one also needs a "*systemctl deamon-reload". Could this be added to post install, or that would have additional side effects? - "rcsyslog stop" / "systemctl stop syslog.service" does not work, syslog-ng starts immediately again (also affects rsyslog). - after a "kill -9" on syslog-ng, "systemctl status syslog.service" shows syslog-ng active/running and exited/killed at the same time :-) It can't be started again by "systemctl start syslog.service" - I don't know, if /dev/log vs. /run/systemd/journal/syslog should be addressed in syslog-ng.conf Bye, CzP * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org